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Originally Posted by guthmund
That's probably quite true. If the movement, for lack a better word, hadn't attached the word marriage to it, it wouldn't have scared the bejeebus out of folks and probably wouldn't have been as big a deal as it is.
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Exactly my point.
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They're not protecting marriage for traditional heterosexual couples, they're protecting it against non-traditional homosexual couples. So, where exactly is it where they don't care who you're snorking?
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Last I checked it's legal to be gay or lead a gay lifestyle. The only thing outlawed in several states now is to get married in the traditional sense.
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I'm afraid I don't understand. You agree that it's bigotry and still support it? Am I mixed up? Did I misread something? If not, I have to ask, how exactly can you support legalized bigotry?
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Life is bigoted. Everyone is bigoted in some sense of the word. What's wrong with a few moral constraints on society? Why does it always have to be all or nothing? Why can't we all just live together in peace and obey the laws, even the ones we don't agree with. There's a time and place for all things under the sun. To break existing laws to get what you want is not the proper way get said laws changed or make anyone particularly sympathic to your situation. I personally don't agree with some speed limit laws, does that mean it's ok and I shouldn't have to obey the laws I don't agree with? No, it means I should lobby my representives to get the laws changed.
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I forgot to ask this in the last run through. Why isn't it okay to be gay? I kind of ran with a joke there, but really, what isn't it okay to teach kids a little tolerance maybe even acceptance?
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I think everyone should be tolerant of other views. Teaching kids to be tolerant is perfectly fine. Teaching acceptance is something totally different.
Teaching acceptance is teaching kids moral values their parents might not agree with. What's wrong with parents teaching their moral values to their children? Why does moral values have to be taught in school? One can be tolerant and still not accept someones chosen lifestyle as being morally healthy. I live near and work in the city gays proudly call the "gay capitol of the midwest". I have to be tolerant, tolerance which I most happily extend. However, that doesn't necessarily mean I have to morally agree nor morally support their lifestyle decisions. From what I understand it isn't necessarily marriage most of them want anyway, they merely want the same rights as married couples. This can be accomplished by legal civil unions, unless you live in Ohio. So be it then, if that's what they want then do what every other law abiding citizen does and get the laws changed. Don't you think it's a bit ironic that gays made this huge political statement, basically said "fuck you" to the system and society and now that the system and society has said "no fuck you", their leaving?