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Originally Posted by FngKestrel
What necessitates needing a larger caliber? What kind of enemies are we trying to take down with these types of weapons? Not asking any moral questions here, purely academic.
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the enemy of today is islamic fundamentalists...
basically, why I think we need a larger caliber is because the .223 is a varmint cartridge. Every vietnam vet I have talked to basically says the bullet is too small for jungle warfare (the bullet starts tumbling after it hits a leaf, thats not good) while muslim whackos are fer and far between in the jungle, its still good to have a bullet that works everywhere...
its just a lot of reports of people dropping a few rounds into someone and they are still not incapacitated... they are on the ground yeah, but that doesn't mean to me they are out of the fight.
did you see that video of the terrorist guy in Iraq getting hosed with a M249? He took a round in his left side and he didnt even fall to the ground, he just kinda fell on his but (which isn't at all spectacular as he was crouching when he got shot)
theres really a lot more to it than that, but to sum it up, hunters won't dream of shooting a .223 at a deer, because its just not enough. If its not enough for a 150 deer, what makes you think its enough for a person? theres a reason the army went ape-shit trying to keep us from moving to the .223, its just not enough.