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Old 11-11-2004, 11:13 PM   #68 (permalink)
JimmyTheHutt
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Originally Posted by jack's liver
There are plenty of huge holes in the theory of evolution, and just because people continue to hold onto the theory and continue to try to find that essential fossil to prove their THEORY into law doesn't make it more true. It gives them a nifty hobby which I guess is better than smoking pot and playing XBox, but it's no more valid or important than someone going to church. Sure you can keep telling yourself it's more noble because "I haven't given up on trying to find solid evidence of my beliefs", but in the end your just trying to make your THEORY better than someone else's beliefs which at the current time they're not. Don't get me wrong - I'm not argueing for creationism and if you go read my post I never did, I'm just saying in the end both THEORIES are just that THEORY.
You are failing to grasp what a scientific theory is. It is not just a convenient story made up to fit the facts, which is how you are describing it. A theory, via the scientific method has been tested and tested until reasonable sure of its ability to predict an outcome, which leaves a margin of error and the ability to encompass new data as it modifies those predictions. The simple fact of there being ACTUAL EVIDENCE in favor of evolution, regardless of the fact that it does not state every single point in the chain, makes it instantly more logically credible then Creationism. Creationism is a matter of faith, the theory of Evolution is one of science. If data comes to light that is sufficient and plentiful enough to completely discard it, then that's what science will do. Creationism cannot be discarded because of new evidence, because there is no such evidence. It's not a scientific theory at all. Intelligent Design is in the same boat.

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Oh, and I didn't say take it or leave it, but you kinda have to since you're in the minority - unless you move to France, Germany .... (ah the beauty of democracy). Don't fret though, maybe the country will become enlightened in the next four years and you'll have the President you want, and when that time comes people of faith won't be nearly as depressed as people that hinge their whole existence on whether or not abortion is legal or if we should drill for oil in Alaska. You see people of faith have their eye on a different prize, and maybe that's why they bother you so much.
I somehow doubt that those are the actual issues that upset people so much. The greater concern, the thing I do hinge my existence on, is FREEDOM. Put simply, they are trying to take it away because it does not jibe well with the Bible. The other issues are symptamatic. I, for one, am never going to have an abortion, most notably because its impossible for me to have one. That does not, however, preclude me from being concerned when others attempt to restrict other people from doing so. Freedoms are easier to hold on to then they are to recover. Therefore, it makes more logical sense to guard those freedoms fiercly. The concern about ANWR is actually an expression of a larger concern about the environment. Admittedly, the science behind much of environmentalism is suspect, but I can understand wanting to preserve the natural beauty of ANWR rather than fill it with Oil drilling facilities. These are legitimate, far ranging concerns about the quality of my life and the life of any children I might someday have. While some might worry only about heaven, it seems more sensible to try and make THIS world a free, more satisfying place to live in, regardless of whether or not there is an afterlife.

Yes, people who want to mix their religous rules with my government scare me. The two things are mutually exclusive and should remain so.

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