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Originally Posted by Carn
I don't think there are any parts of the Bible that say masturbation is wrong. The only reason people think it's wrong is because the church back in the day said maturbation is wrong. A lot of misconceptions people have are due to dumb rules that the church made up, not the Bible.
Dumbfuck people from the middle ages decided to say that bodily gratification in any form is wrong, sex is only to make babies, etc, so people still think that today.
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The people in the middle ages did not believe that bodily gratification in any form was wrong. Nor did they say that sex was only to make babies. They had no problem with sex for pleasure as long as it was within marriage. During the middle ages it was illegal for either partner to refuse sex with the other. This was canonical law. Why would a Church that believed bodily gratification was wrong have a law like that? It's true that there had always been ascetic sects who wanted to deny the body to make their spirits stronger but they were on the fringe of Christianity anyway. (These ascetics actually lived on pillars in the desert.) The Cathari are another source of this idea that mediaeval Christians thought bodily gratification was wrong. They believed in two gods. The Good God who made the soul and the Evil God who made the body. The way to achieve salvation was by extreme asceticism. They were known to starve themselves to death and actually believed that procreation was a sin because it trapped good souls in evil bodies. In case anyone missed it, the Cathari were not Christians. They believed in two gods, not one. The Catholic church has always held that the body was a good thing because God became an incarnate man and anyone who says differently is considered a heretic.