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Originally Posted by mirevolver
You are in disagreement with Article I, Section 8, clause 18 of the Constitution.
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No I'm not.
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I will however cede the point of citizenship as amendment 14 clearly says that citizens are citizens of both the state they reside in as well as citizens of the United States. However there is still a fundimental difference between that and the UN. In the case of the US, I am a citizen of Arizona and of the US. But with the UN, I am a citizen of the US, but not a citizen of the UN.
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You are a citizen of the World. You are also a citizen of a nation that is part of the U.N. The laws of the U.N. apply to you.
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This sets the US as a sovereign entity made up of people who are citizens of the US.
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And the U.N. is a sovereign entity made up of the people who are citizens of the nations which comprise the U.N. That's why we have things like U.N. sanctions, International Law, etc.
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The UN however is not a sovereign entity and has no governance of those involved in the UN.
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The U.N. does have governance over those involved in the U.N.
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Those involved in the UN are there on a strictly volunteer basis.
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Those involved in the United States are on a strictly volunteer basis - all they have to do is amend the constitution.
Again, and for the last time - there is no significant difference between the U.S. and the U.N. other than scope. Why? Because both organizations are based on democratic principles. Therefore, to state that the U.N. should be disbanded because "
in some areas (emergency humanitarian aid, third world assistance, economy of resources, fiscal transparency) failures are clearly observable" where the same thing is equally true for the U.S. is to hold those organizations to different standards without cause.
I'm not going to repeat myself yet again, so I'm done with this conversation.