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Old 11-08-2004, 10:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
Dragonlich
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Originally Posted by Rdr4evr
Well, either you COMPLETELY ignored my post, or responded without reading the whole thing. If you actually look at the post, you will understand that I already labeled the extremist doing the suicide bombings and beheadings as terrorists. Not EVERYONE in Iraq fighting the American forces take part in these terrorist activities though, it is a very small percentage.
Do you have any evidence to back that up? As far as I see it, the insurgents are either terrorists from neighboring countries, ex-Ba'athists trying to regain power, fundamentalist Muslims trying to start a revolution, or common criminals trying to make a quick buck. Sure, they're not *all* terrorists, but they all have their own agenda, and they're all trying to achieve their goals with violent means, no matter how many people, including civilians, die.

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Oh I see, so the only way to not be labeled as a terrorist is to cooperate with the US forces? Once again, put yourself in their shoes, would you cooperate with the soldiers that killed your loved ones? I said I don’t want one-sided responses.
That's not what he said. He (and I) feels that the best way to help Iraq is to cooperate with the new government, and the US forces. To do anything else will only bring suffering to the people of Iraq. But of course, if the US is your great Satan, it's hard to comprehend they might not be interested in taking over your shithole of a country.

Now, if I were to live in Iraq, I know what I'd do: after decades of death and destruction, I'd want a peaceful society. That means I would NOT attack anyone suspected of cooperating with the "enemy", if that enemy is trying to rebuild my friggin' country. Furthermore, if my loved ones were killed by US soldiers, I'd be pretty damn angry; but I would be equally angry if my loved ones were murdered by Iraqi "freedom fighters"... angry enough to want to join the new Iraqi army and crush the terrorists!

So, how's that for a one-sided response?

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It’s more disturbing that you label the murderous actions of the US soldiers (which are terrorists in the eyes of many around the world) justified, whereas the Iraqis are evil murderers. Oh no, the US soldiers are perfect humanitarians, none of them are crazed sociopaths, they are all sane individuals looking to help Iraq to a better future. Once again, don’t respond if you can’t be objective.
There's a difference between what many around the world think and the real world. Nobody ever said US soldiers were perfect, so you can stop pretending anyone did. However, the majority of US soldiers are ultimately fighting to rebuild Iraq and create a safe and peaceful country. The terrorists/insurgents seem only able to destroy things and kill people, all in the name of their respective cause. I know who I support; do you?
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