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					Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
					
				 Of course, it all depends upon your definition of "victory".  If you believe whole-sale destruction, high casualties for Allied troops, unknown but doubtlessly very high civilian casualties and a complete PR disaster are acceptable in your idea of victory, then you may continue to disagree.
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 Don't worry, no matter what the outcome the press will do their best to make it a complete PR disaster.