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Originally Posted by Konichiwaneko
Lol I know you are being facitious but I'll comment on this.
For people who think that the Metroplii is where all the money is, please be aware that yes a larger concentration of wealth is from there, but the raw resources used to accumulate that wealth, the actual tangibles are from the scarcely populated area. The business owners, and the workers share a mutual relationship when it comes to that. Most jobs inside the city are "Decadence jobs" those that aren't required if lets say, a nuclear strike occurred. So respect your farmers, and rural folks, they are the foundation to our society.
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Out here on the west coast, we have the best of both worlds: high tech, a fair amount of industry, _and_ lots of agriculture. A West Coast Republic, with probably Nevada coming along for the ride, would be quite viable.
Now, would/should secession happen, especially of wealthier area like the West Coast. I think only under extreme conditions:
1) Conditions in general throughout the US would have to be very, very bad -- economically, socially, etc.
2) There'd have to be the strong perception in the area seceding that they were being exploited or persecuted by the rest of the country, or were doing poorly along with the rest of the country for reasons or decisions that they never agreed to. They'd have to feel that they'd been wronged, were being exploited, and would be better off on their own.
Frankly, the U.S. would have to be near collapse for the positives to outweigh the negatives on a decision like this, so short of that situation I don't think it'd actually happen.
However, there is an intermediate position: the state does not secede, but cooperation with the federal government is diminished. The feds come in to, say, raid pot farms or rogue communities of revolutionaries or people operating abortion clinics (under a new anti-abortion Supreme Court), and the state and local government refuse to back them up. In that case, the state might still be part of the US, but with diminished allegiance to the federal government.
It's happened in my area. Last year the feds came in to raid a medical marijuana plantation (basically tolerated by state and local government) in my very liberal county. They were met with a barricade manned by sick people in wheelchairs.
They called the sherrif for backup. When the sherrif came out and saw what was going on, he had some choice words for the federal agents.
About two months ago, federal marshals raided an illegal radio station here in town. They came to the house to carry off the equipment; most of the people involved are just college-town anarchists.
Anyway, the marshalls called for backup, and the cops didn't come this time. They said they were busy. The feds got their stuff, but tires were slashed on five of their cars. They had to be towed away.
This kind of diminished cooperation with the feds could be the rule of the day in a state that decides to stop cooperating with the feds. The feds come by and say, we think there are a bunch of revolutionaries meeting up in the mountains evading their taxes and committing abortions, back us up, and the locals say, you're on your own boys, we're busy with the policemen's ball. The power of the feds would be weakened greatly.