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Originally Posted by phathom
I totally agree with you Halx. They are not protecting anything of our way of life or rights in this country, they are just going about their own agenda, that is not right, and not the way this country works, we do what is best for all people not just their group. And honestly, if Kerry would have won by say 75% to 25% in the popular vote, it wouldn't matter because the electorial college vote just takes over and hey guess what Bush wins that way. Our votes don't even count, it's just who they want in there to begin with and the whole majority vote thing for Americans is just a shirade to make us think we're doing something. On a local scale, hell ya your vote counts, for congressmen, local bills, mayors, ect. sure that counts, but on the national scale like this, it means nothing and either you know it or your lying to yourself and are easily fooled by the media and don't see the truth. Who here agrees with me? Yay or nay? We didn't land on America, America Landed on Us.
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Um, you do realize that the only times the popular vote winner was not the electoral vote winner were in EXTREMELY close races, right? I'm not going to bother rehashing the basis for the electoral college here 1) when it's not part of this thread and 2) when I've done so numerous times elsewhere, but I do suggest you please do a search and read what has already been posted regarding it. I am a huge proponent of voting reform. I think there are numerous problems with voting in America. However, the electoral colelge is not one of them. While not perfect, nothing is, and it is the best of the options. I do support *certain* reforms, but this concept that it renders your vote meaningless is just rubbish.
And now back to your regularly scheduled discussion...
I share tecoyah's optimism and realism. The truth is, if the Republican party pushes too far in the next 4 years, it *will* fall apart after all the moderates abandon it. They know this.