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Originally Posted by willravel
...actually listen to what we have to say with an open mind before beating us over the head with Christian morals and Second Gulf War stories of American heroism. Don't just automatically buy into every Jessica Lynch and WMD you are handed. In questioning the information you are given, you raise the probability of finding the truth.
If that came off as a deplorable method, I whole heartedly apologize.
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It wasn't deplorable at all. I would like to point out that I haven't mentioned a single thing about a second gulf war hero or spewed a single piece of christian moralism...NOT ONE.
I've listened. Very closely. I've read, very intently. The gist of the lefts disappointment with this election in particular is an ingnorant, brainwashed, and hate filled electorate, blinded by what most seem to think is exclusively christian extremism. Even you just accused me of that.
It hasn't worked and won't work. It's time for change of tactic.
I have been quite stuanch in my support of the homosexual agenda, and similarly opposed to the technique of name calling and slandering your audience. I'm clearly out of my league in this forum, but feel vindicated none-the-less with the population in general.
I'm a canadian, and me and my immediate family are all canadian immigrants to the US. We are naturally very progressive, and open-minded, yet I'm the only one on board with the homosexual agenda. The only one. My family hates being label with vile adjectives, for which they do not qualify, and I suspect most Americans feel likewise. I'm also the right wingest of the lot of us. Anecdotel sure, but hopefully enlightening.
It's not just the elections in general. It's the initiatives in support of the gay agenda. These fail resoundingly....this why the left is 'handed it ass'...over and over again. Somethings amis and seriously so. The venom of those who responded to my opinions in this thread alone. No logic presented, no facts argued, just plain ole appeals to emotion and exasperated holier then thou righteous indignation. These don't forward the cause. Not one single bit.
All this because I suspect that most of the Bush administrations policies are generally centrist in nature, since the VAST majority of the electorate endorses them. This election was close for one reason and one reason only. IRAQ, imho. Pure unadulterated hatred for the foriegn policy direction of President Bush. Every single other issue went squarely with the current administration.
Mr Memphisto, started this thread to discuss the direction of the Bush Administration in the second term. I argued it will continue to be centrist if not somewhat left of center, in light of the federalization of education, huge citizen entitlement, and protectionist trade policies already on the table from this administration. I continue to believe this.
best,
-bear