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The laws of Great Britain do not pay heed to the US constitution. That's good for them, I'm going to talk about why this is wrong. Plain and simple, speaking of simple, most of you have really oversimplified this problem to make your point. I ain't jumping on the discrimination nation bandwagon.


The implications of such a law are so vast, I can't believe no one has mentioned any of them. Example to follow:

BoCo, I don't like people who are in shape, so I will just <i>say</i> you don't worship the way I want you to, so forget it.

I don't like blacks, same thing.

I don't like women, same thing.

I hope you can see how easy this would be to manipulate. ANYONE who doesn't fit, I can discriminate against.

Granted, there are laws, and there is reality. Our laws, thankfully, prohibit this kind of hiring. Someone may do it anyway (reality) but if they are caught out they will be punished (law).
Once discrimination is given legal justification, there is no stopping it.

I am also surprised that on the same board that went nuts over the absurdity of a segregated prom, you accept the same thing on a different front. So much for consistency.

BoCo, I am disappointed at your "Would it make sense for a Christian bookstore to hire a Goth chic?" question. It's a really poor example for the point you are making.

Why should a Christian bookstore <b>assume</b> that the Goth chick is NOT a devout Christian. Oh, that's right, we've already espoused discrimination based on looks. We've also approved judging without even BOTHERING to find out what the Goth is like.

The ignorance shown by these supposed Christians is disappointing, but not shocking. For a group that's supposed to love everyone, I've never met a group less likely to look past appearances. Our Goth chick may go to church every Sunday, pray daily, and be a better Christian than any 10 others, but we've give the go-ahead to dispose of her without thought because of the clothes s/he wears.

Speaking of what she wears, and you blew this one Dark_Prophecy, the business is allowed to have a dress code. No one has said that's wrong; Should she refuse to follow it she could be fired. However, at the interview you ask, "will you follow our dress code?" If the Goth says "yes" and you decide to trust her then she likely will, assuming your choice to trust was correct.

The Goth choosing to not follow a dress code is a completely separate issue than choosing not to hire the Goth because of race, religion, sex, marital status, etc. Choosing not to follow a dress code is like firing someone for non-performance, or stealing.

I guess if we're espousing discrimination based on clothing, or gayness, or ability to believe in jeebus, I shouldn't expect SKIN COLOR to play any part, right? I mean, we have made clear what KIND of discrimination is right, right?

Back in the day a business owner could make his ('he" for the sake of discussion) employees work any hours. He could injure or kill them by the complete lack of concern for safety issues.

He could tell every nigger, kike, wop, spic, cracker, slant, slope, chinaman, squint, fag, homo, slut, tramp, and bitch, to take a flying fuck because they don't "fit the image need for a certain position." (quoted from Dark_Prophecy).
Now, DP also said "for right or wrong," but I don't think those opposing concepts can simultaneously exist like that. A thing is either right, or wrong.

(I used the vulgarities because they evoke emotional responses depending on what hates the reader harbors. Some people are offended by "kike" but not "fag," or "bitch." Those responses are VERY telling. Which words offended you? Which didn'?)

Employers could also refuse to pay fair wages, and abuse employees as one saw fit.

At some point, society (through the forming of unions and passing of labor laws) said "you may not do anything you want with your business." So, friends, that argument has been settled for about 100 years.

Society said: you will pay fair wages, you will provide safe working conditions, you will not make workers stay obscene hours, you may not lock employees in the building, you will not refuse to hire based on gender, race, religion, creed, marital status, age, and (recently) sexual preference.

I suppose you support turning back the clock?

If I choose to follow the rules and regulations of the business I am attempting to work at, and I have the abilities to do the job, no one has the right to tell me that I have the wrong belief system for the job. Or, the wrong skin color, sexual preference, gender, nationality, marital status, or political views.

Malcolm X was right, we need a struggle for human rights.

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