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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
i should read more history to make an observation of the current democratic party? how bout i just read a newspaper instead?
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Historical context may not be important to you but I tend to think that it can shed some light on our present situation. I believe the saying goes, "those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it."
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why is it that when i say "liberal" it is read as "democrat"? of course not all democrats are radical... but the most visible proponents of radical liberalism do throw their weight behind the democratic party.
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I'm curious what you mean by "radical liberalism." If the radicals support the Democrats so much than why has the Nation (magazine) pleaded with them to vote Democrat in the last two elections? I have personal experience here....radicals have little patience for Democrats. They are seen as part of the problem, as mere tools of a system of oppression and oligarchy.
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in a sense, the democratic party has too big of a tent. it houses left leaning moderates and radical liberals under the same label. how can you expect a moderate base to take the democratic party seriously when you have michael moore, george soros, alec baldwin, sean penn, nancy pelosi etc. headlining the democratic agenda? where else do these people (moderates and moderate democrats) have to go? the only viable left-leaning party is run from the top by radical liberals.
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As I've said too many times, the Democratic party leadership is far from radical. If one had any idea of the state of leftist politics in this country they would not make that claim. It is a good way to scare the shit out of moderate conservative voters, though.
It will be interesting to see how long the Republican party can maintain their own semblance of unity. How long will the Gary Bauers be able to stomach the more moderate Giuliani's?
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if the people of this country want to have a moderate liberal agenda that is relevant to everyday Americans they must either abandon the poor beleaguered democrats to the radicals and start from scratch... or they must cut the hysterical fringe from their midst and re-assert a realistic liberal agenda that represents the now-disenfranchised moderate left.
EDIT: Manx, the "nation's center" refers to a geographic orientation, not a political one.
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So what does a "realistic liberal agenda" entail? The Republican platform? No meaningful difference at all? One of the most common criticisms of the Democrats from the left is their centrism. Hell, why not go all the way and just nominate Arnie. That should get some votes.