if you'll read my post i clearly advise that democrats make a choice between radical liberalism and a return to their historical values.
liberalism and the democratic party are not interchangeable terms. i referred to the democratic party deliberately for that exact reason.
i'm only going to say it once more: i don't claim to be a centrist, just that my decidedly conservative position is often a more attractive alternative to radical liberalism for moderates who (by virtue of a limited range of viable political parties) are often forced to make a choice.
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