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Old 11-04-2004, 09:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
next comes the biggest problem i find in cthulu's initial post: it's just plain stick-your-head-in-the-ground political awareness to pretend that the liberal agenda has widespread support among mainstream America. liberal philosophy has become hysterical and self loathing. there is nothing positive coming from the liberal side... the only thing people hear is: 1) how dumb they are for not being liberal 2) how the world is going to end with conservative leaders in place.

liberalism has done some very positive things for America... but they've gone from being concerned about social justice to feeding their own sense of superiority. we here in the nation's center see michael moore's movies and watch protests on cspan and realize that not only does liberalism in it's current form has nothing to say to us... it's hostile to the things we hold dear.
I would never say that all of American conservatism is fundamentally bankrupt or produces nothing good. That must be one of those intolerant liberal characteristics I guess.

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the much vaunted liberal tolerance only tolerates liberalism, those who place hope and trust in tradition can feel the scorn and condescension coming our way from the left. democrats have two options: cut the cancers of pelosi, moore, chomsky and soros and embrace the social justice platform that made them relevant in the 60s and 70s. otherwise, they should own up to the fact that the face of liberalism has become radical and accept that they are separate from the hopes and aspirations of the nation at large.
Some liberals, particularly Chomsky (what the hell does he have in common with the rest of your list, anyway) never stopped fighting for social justice. the struggle still goes on, but I never seem to see to many Republicans there....

The very notion that the modern democratic party is "radical" in any way or even very "liberal" is downright laughable. Read a little history before you make such statements.
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