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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
first, i'd like to point out that government operates on more than fiscal and social planes. this thread is denying some major aspects of policy such as defense, diplomacy, law enforcement, gun control etc... to boil down national trends to just two factors (social and fiscal policy) is to deny much what people base their vote on.
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I disagree. The two primary areas of political philosophy are fiscal and social. The areas you have pointed out typically break along either a monetary issue or a social issue.
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while it is true that the democrats shouldn't put on a socially conservative face simply to gain more votes (the good lord knows there is enough pandering in politics as it is) it's logically fallacious to say that the fiscal conservatives have dishonestly co-opted social conservatives... as if they were mutually exclusive ideas. i think you'll find that many social conservatives are also fiscally conservative.
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I'm quite certain there are many social conservatives who are also fiscally conservative. It is the inverse that I am concerned with: fiscal conservatives who are not really socially conservative, but feel so strongly about their need to control the fiscal matters of the country that they are willing to sacrifice their social liberalism.
The rest of your comments are, honestly, rather standard conservatism. "There is nothing positive coming from the liberal side", "We here in the center". Essentially,
get rid of your liberal philosophy, and then you won't be in the party that lost. I will ignore that portion of your response, as the entire purpose of this thread was in pointing out the fallacy of it.