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Old 11-04-2004, 08:26 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bingle
The statement was originally saying that the vast majority of the white population of the south was racist. This is not a racist statement, any more than "Hispanics are 50% more likely to vote Republican".
We're certainly branching out from the original thread, but here goes.

Yours is a bad analogy. A more comparable statement to yours would be "Blacks like watermelon." It's insulting, and may have been true at one time, but no more.


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Originally Posted by bingle
It's also true - look at the civil rights battles in the south, and the patterns of discrimination in the south after Reconstruction. That's not to say that a lot of Northerners weren't racist, too, but it was certainly more institutionalized in the south.

Read some history of the time, or some works by black authors on the post-war South.

Bingle
Thanks for the (unnecessary) advice. Here's some reading for you:

"White carpenters, white bricklayers and white painters will not work side by side with the blacks in the North but do it in almost every Southern State."

Alexis de Tocqueville, 1907, as cited in Truths of History, p. 92

Non-resident blacks were forbidden to attend public schools in Connecticut because "... it would tend to the great increase of the colored people of the state."

William Lloyd Garrison, as cited in Virginia's Attitude Toward Slavery and Succession

New Jersey prohibited free blacks from settling in the state.

Massachusetts passed a law that allowed the flogging of blacks who came into the state and remained for longer than two months.

Indiana's constitution stated that "...no negro or mulatto shall come into or settle in the state..."

Illinois in 1853 enacted a law "...to prevent the immigration of free negroes into this state."

Oregon's 1857 constitution provided that "...No free negro or mulatto, not residing in this state at the time of adoption [of the constitution of the state of Oregon] ... shall come,reside, or be within this state..."

Beverly B. Munford, Virginia's Attitude Toward Slavery and Succession


"But why should emancipation South send free people North? ... And in any event cannot the North decide for itself whether to receive them?"

Abraham Lincoln, in a message to Congress, December, 1862

State /Year Blacks Barred from Voting
New Jersey 1807
Connecticut 1814
Rhode Island 1822
Pennsylvania 1838

Edgar J. McManus, Black Bondage in the North

You also seem to have missed the bloody race riots of the 1960s in Newark and Detroit. And the violent resistance to forced busing in Boston (right after a judge broke up my high school in Georgia with forced busing, over which there were no riots).

It is also documented that the North is more segregated than the South.

Legal Lynching, Southern Partisan, p. 44

Still want to tell me that racism was, or is, so much more institutionalized in the North?
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