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Old 11-04-2004, 05:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I am worried that Democrats will stray too far to the right. They have been moving to the right for years now. Even Kerry had some elements that were FAR too socially conservative - such as his personal anti-gay marriage belief.

Whether they know it was not a mandate is irrelevent to the fact that liberals did not vote enough to deal with the social conservatives. The suggestions have been that liberals need to adjust their message to make the social conservatives feel more comfortable with the liberals. Adjusting the message either means lying, because it is quite evident that liberals and social conservatives greatly differ in their intentions and desires, or the sacrifice of the philosophy of the liberal.
I also feel that the Democratic party has strayed too far to the right. Instead of "adjusting the message" I think that we need to prove why the left's message is still more relevant to the common man than the right's. It's amazing how the "comon man" has been swayed by the very party that opposes basic worker protections.

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The former will just fail come next election, the latter is the destruction of the liberals.

Reach out does indeed mean adopt the Republican platform - in either word or deed.

As for sources, I have seen Atrios talk to this modifying the message to appeal, Kos, Salon. There are a number of highly visible liberal organizations speaking about their perception of this need to gain acceptance in the social conservative community. And there are a number of members of this forum which are doing the same.
If you think that Atrios or DKos are talking about moving to the right as a party, I have to take exception with that. I haven't seen anything on their sites that suggests we move to the right...they have just been vocalizing ways to change the strategy in the face of defeat. Surely we don't want to do everything the same way next time?

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