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Originally Posted by Stompy
That's based off of your assumption that people CHOOSE to be gay. People don't just up and decide, "Shit, today is tuesday, I think I'll be GAY today!"
You are attracted to women - you are not attracted to men. Do you concsiously CHOOSE that, or is that just the way things are for you? Same thing for them.
You may feel absolutely no attraction to a man whatsoever, but in the same sense, they don't feel that way about their oppposite sex!
It's all tolerance and understanding.
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I am attracted to women. But getting married and having sex are CHOICES I make. And it isn't even proven that gays are hardwired to be attracted to women.
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Why are we stuck on this still? Hahaha It's NOT THE SAME!! Not even REMOTELY close to the points I am trying to make! Someone gay who is married has NO EFFECT on your life! Someone who walks up to your mother and shoots her in the face or forces her to have sex against her will does affect you. If you can give me a reason how it affects you that two men are married, I'll let it be.
If I have a good time with myself watching porn while smoking a joint, does that affect you?
These are the things I'm trying to get at. Personal choices, personal responsibility, amongst other things (stem cell research falling into neither category).
I know you're trying to make a point, but you're choosing the wrong examples.
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Living in a society, other peoples' actions do have an affect on you. If you are smoking a joint and watching porn, someone had to provide that stuff(unless you are making porn solo and have a hydroponic lab in the basement

). Being that one is illegal and the other is often associated with illegal acts or behavior that is found usually unacceptable (i'm talking more the degredation of women), society is paying a cost to allow you to have porn and weed. It might not be as direct, but they still affect other people. By purposly choosing exaggerated examples, I am trying to show that there is no absolute, and all limitations are merely a discussion of degree and none more inherently correct than the other.