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Master_Shake · 11-04-2004, 07:06 AM

"there is no strict reason for anything beyond the realm of my senses to physically exist."
"this is all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. And I think that is more likely."

A little membrane (M) theory there, perhaps?
Even if we are all subjective experiences of the same consciousness, I don't see how that should fundamentally change my behaviour. If the ultimate consciousness has no noticeable effect on me, then it might as well not exist, and I am free to disregard it.

If subjective experience A kills subjective experience B, does that effect the ultimate consciousness, and in turn effect subjective experience A?

If subjective experience A is completely unaware of subjective experience B, and B dies in a horrible corn husking accident, does that in turn effect subjective experience A?

How can we possibly hope to measure such effects, considering that we are all within the system?

This also reminds me of a great physics idea I read somewhere, (sorry, I can't remember where from). The gist is that if a particle is able to move backward through time as an anti-particle, then resume its "forward" momentum and repeat, that particle could be in more place than one at any particular time-point. Given enough energy to do so on a large enough scale, every particle could simply be manifestations of the exact same particle at different time-points, i.e. everything is made of the exact same particle.

11-04-2004, 07:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
Master_Shake Addict Location: Pennsylvania, USA	"there is no strict reason for anything beyond the realm of my senses to physically exist." "this is all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. And I think that is more likely." A little membrane (M) theory there, perhaps? Even if we are all subjective experiences of the same consciousness, I don't see how that should fundamentally change my behaviour. If the ultimate consciousness has no noticeable effect on me, then it might as well not exist, and I am free to disregard it. If subjective experience A kills subjective experience B, does that effect the ultimate consciousness, and in turn effect subjective experience A? If subjective experience A is completely unaware of subjective experience B, and B dies in a horrible corn husking accident, does that in turn effect subjective experience A? How can we possibly hope to measure such effects, considering that we are all within the system? This also reminds me of a great physics idea I read somewhere, (sorry, I can't remember where from). The gist is that if a particle is able to move backward through time as an anti-particle, then resume its "forward" momentum and repeat, that particle could be in more place than one at any particular time-point. Given enough energy to do so on a large enough scale, every particle could simply be manifestations of the exact same particle at different time-points, i.e. everything is made of the exact same particle. __________________ ------------- You know something, I don't think the sun even... exists... in this place. 'Cause I've been up for hours, and hours, and hours, and the night never ends here.