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host,
i appreciate you going to the lengths of trying to find concrete data to address admittedly anecdotal notions. but, the conclusions you drew from that data were very plainly inappropriate. my acceptance or dismissal of the poll data is irrelevant so long as the interpretation is demonstratably flawed. and no, it didn't take me 5 minutes to respond to the poll data... it took much less than that. please don't talk of sidestepping or dismissal while my original post on this thread goes unchallenged.
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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
~ Winston Churchill
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