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Old 11-01-2004, 02:13 AM   #51 (permalink)
adysav
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Originally Posted by martinguerre
Again. Just in case i wasn't clear. you can imagine this in all caps if you like, in fact, please do. I believe in theoretical research.
In the earlier post you said:
"We don't understand the brain very well at all...we have a basic working knowledge of the mechanisms...but very little concerning the way in which it functions on higher levels. in the end...i'd much rather give myself space to be surprised, by both God and nature."
To me that sounded like you didnt really approve of the research going any further. If I misunderstood then just ignore the previous posts.
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Originally Posted by xepherys
Strangely enough, that's how many theories start, whether they are incorrect or quite on the dot.
Most theories are not plucked out of the air willy-nilly but are based on some kind of observation. Newton gets knocked on the head with an apple and thinks "hey something looks to be pulling that down". If I lose my keys however, I don't put it down to the fact that the invisible beetles must have been in control of my body when I last had them. Similarly, blaming a being which is undetectable yet omnipresent doesn't do it for me.
I could tell you that I made the first mobile phone in my garage, and to a lot of you that would be less plausible than the existence of a universe-wide, all seeing, all-knowing invisible father figure who is conspicuous by his absence in everyday life, until we die.
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Originally Posted by xepherys
I'm not sure that most Physicists would approve of Chaos Theory being classified as psuedo-science. In fact, chaos (entropy) DOES increase as time moves forward.
It's thermodynamics, not chaos theory. I said pseudo-scientific because he was misquoting well known scientific laws to further his point.
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Originally Posted by xepherys
A tree is much more chaotic in nature than an acorn, and iPod much more than it's elemental components, especially since the components are man made (unnatural) and the manufacturing process creates further chaos with byproducts being introduced.
Yes the overall entropy increases, but an Ipod is not less ordered than it's elemental components (what has being man-made got to do with anything?). If you don't see that then I don't know what I can say to help you understand.
A tree is more chaotic than an acorn? Several tons of roaming simple molecules are brought together to form a well structured biological factory.
Complex objects are well ordered, that's why they're complex.
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