not necessarily from people on this board, but i've spoken with a couple people who recommended that we withdraw support from israel to end al-qaida's war on the United States.
somewhere beyond the grave... Neville Chamberlain is frantically waving his arms and screaming "Don't fall for it!" 
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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
~ Winston Churchill
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