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Old 10-29-2004, 06:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Sorry Stompy...but come on man! this is Tilted Politics, why so sensitive? I'm not a hit n run kinda guy here either...so:

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Those aren't legitimate reasons.
What aren't? Reasons for what?

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What, you REALLY think Kerry's gonna take office and ignore the "war on terrorism"? I don't think so. Any president that downplays it would face career suicide.
The thing is, nobody knows what he's going to do. What do *you* think he's going to do? There's nobody else for Kerry to reach out to, that's going to send troops into Iraq. Everybody already said no. What will Kerry do differently?

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So, if that's your sole basis for forming an opinion on Bush, then I'd suggest you quickly find another avenue, because both presidents (and any president for that matter) would be able to do it..
That Bush is tough on terrorists being the sole basis for forming an opinion on Bush? No, it is not the sole basis upon which I form an opinion on Bush. It is part of why I like Bush, and I don't think its a foregone conclusion that just any warm body in the White House would be effective in this capacity. What justification can you give for this statement? Do you deny the existence of an ineffectual president like, say, Jim Carter, who got bullied around by Iran back in the 70's? I think it'd be a mistake to discount individual characteristics and political voting records in choosing a wartime president.

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The point is, who will do it better? So far Bush has made some questionable decisions and, believe it or not, is actually making you LESS safe in the long run...
Who will do what better? I agree he's made some questionable decisions. I disagree he's made America less safe. I used to think he did, but I don't anymore. Fight Offensively, even when others may turn away, hesitate or give up.

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He has this "me me me" mentality when it comes to this country, but like I said above, if we keep pulling this shit like we own the world, then someone will eventually put us in our place.
No, not a me, me, me attitude. A WE, WE, WE attitude. As in, 'We, the People'. The American People. He's doing whats right to protect the citizens of America, in my opinion.

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The OBL tape came out today and said neither Kerry nor Bush is responsible for our security and it relies upon US foreign policy. Have any of our leaders actually taken a step back to understand what this means, or do they act with tunnel vision thinking the USA can do no wrong and can't admit any past mistakes? I think we know the answer to that question..
I point to the obvious, and say, They attacked us. They killed more Americans (all civilians, to boot) in one day since World War 2. In my opinion, there is no excuse imaginable for such an attack. This was a Declaration of War against America. America should not look to psychopathic religious maniacs to tell them how to handle their foreign affairs. Ok. So, it was OK to invade Afghanistan, but not do anything about a dictator hostile to America, a sponsor of terrorism, a potential terrorist supplier of destructive doo-dads. You know the story. Saddam Hussein had the bad fortune of being alive 1.5 years after 9/11 and he paid the price.

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Our foreign policy sucks ass. The rest of the world can see this, so why can't we?
What foreign policy are you referring to?What model of foreign policy do you base this on? Whose doing it the 'right' way in your opinion? Is there anyone out there in America's position, acting as a role model?
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