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Ah, but that's JUST what people might have said before air was understood. Same for any number of scientific discoveries.
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Before people knew of it's specific makeup and properties, people could see the effects of air, the way wind pushes things around, brushes against your skin and the need for people to suck it in and blow it out again.
The belief in God is not based on similar observations, but of the assumption that certain things are under the control of a higher being, which is probably what people of old thought of air and wind.
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Who are you to say that God does not exist in the real world? Just because you can't touch it/Him, or don't understand it/Him?
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If there is a God, then you do not understand him either. What makes you special that you can say that he
does exist, but I cannot claim he doesn't. I am merely going with the current evidence, which currently stands at zero.
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I don't understand quarks, gluons, and all of the myriad things that engender particle physics. These tiny particles don't have any effect on me that I can put my finger on and say, "oh! Quarks!" Yet I believe the scientists who tell me that they exist.
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These people have made observations of the real world and noted the effects of these things.
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Our lack of understanding or disbelief in a subject does not disprove its existence. Granted, our belief in a subject does not prove existence, either. I think that part of our struggle in being human is trying to keep an open mind to those things that are untouchable, undetectable. This is called faith.
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If I continually claimed there were invisible beetles crawling under my skin controlling my actions and thoughts, you'd call me a nutcase. To me, faith in an omnipotent God is just as arbitrary.
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If, someday, God is discovered & proven scientifically, I do not concede that my current belief in it/Him was coincidental. I feel & see God's effects all around me; just as people felt the effects of the wind, even when they could not explain it.
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That's my point, you don't see the effects of God around you. Everything you feel, see, taste and touch is the product of your body's interaction with a pretty rational reality. You're emphasising my point that belief in God is simply a blanket to cover everything that you don't understand about the world.