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Willravel · 10-28-2004, 09:19 AM

"The rules are set in Opposition. Look, but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. And while you're jumping from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughing his sick fucking ass off! He's a tight ass! He's a sadist! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? Never!" Al Pacino - the Devil's Advocate

I think this seems like the obvious answer to questions like abstanance. It seems like God is asking us to go against our own nature. As we grow, we obviously become aware of the opposite sex (and sometimes the same sex, but let's leave that for another thread), it is a natural part of human development. We become sexual for the sake of reproduction. It's programmed in, right? Now the bible say that we should devote ourselves to one person, and only after a promise of singular devotion can we consumate the bond. Do these have to be in opposition?

Obviously it's not easy to wait for that one person who you can love for the rest of your life. No one ever said that'd be easy. I think what the bible is communicating is that God want's us to reproduce, but in a controlled environment. Imagine that we live in a world without premarital sex. How many abortions and infant deaths could be prevented? How many children would have a better chance at growing up in a better home? How many less STDs would there be? I don't know the exact numbers, but it seems that children might be better off being born into a family that planned for it. I am not saying that life conceived outside of marriage is any less than life concieved inside. It just seems that this lesson is there for a good reason.

The problem is people forcing their beliefs on each other. I personally believe in abstaining, but I would never force anyone to follow MY rules. As the act of premarital sex is not illegal, it's not my place (or anyone else's) to enforce God's request.

Here we have a society that is made of of a lot of christians. Those christians live according to a belief system. In this system it is made clear that any premarital sexual relations (Acts 15:20; Romans 1:29; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13,18; 7:2; 10:8; 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7) are considered immoral. Now for the oral and anal(?) sex question, the Bible does not give us a "list" of approved physical activities that a couple can do before they are married.*No where does it say 'Thou shalt not blow', or anything of that sort. It all comes down to your knowledge of God, and His will. If sex before marrige is not allowed by God, it's obvious that any act of foreplay is out of the question.

The problem is that no foreplay can result in pregnancy (unless you're doing it wrong). Oral and anal can result in transfering of STDs and AIDS. Just know that it can be a risk. Make the decision to go all the way, or part of the way, when you are by yourself thinking about right and wrong. Try to avoid making the decision while you are with the object of your desires. It's not impossible to abstain. If I can do it, you can do it. If you want.

10-28-2004, 09:19 AM	#76 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	"The rules are set in Opposition. Look, but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. And while you're jumping from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughing his sick fucking ass off! He's a tight ass! He's a sadist! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? Never!" Al Pacino - the Devil's Advocate I think this seems like the obvious answer to questions like abstanance. It seems like God is asking us to go against our own nature. As we grow, we obviously become aware of the opposite sex (and sometimes the same sex, but let's leave that for another thread), it is a natural part of human development. We become sexual for the sake of reproduction. It's programmed in, right? Now the bible say that we should devote ourselves to one person, and only after a promise of singular devotion can we consumate the bond. Do these have to be in opposition? Obviously it's not easy to wait for that one person who you can love for the rest of your life. No one ever said that'd be easy. I think what the bible is communicating is that God want's us to reproduce, but in a controlled environment. Imagine that we live in a world without premarital sex. How many abortions and infant deaths could be prevented? How many children would have a better chance at growing up in a better home? How many less STDs would there be? I don't know the exact numbers, but it seems that children might be better off being born into a family that planned for it. I am not saying that life conceived outside of marriage is any less than life concieved inside. It just seems that this lesson is there for a good reason. The problem is people forcing their beliefs on each other. I personally believe in abstaining, but I would never force anyone to follow MY rules. As the act of premarital sex is not illegal, it's not my place (or anyone else's) to enforce God's request. Here we have a society that is made of of a lot of christians. Those christians live according to a belief system. In this system it is made clear that any premarital sexual relations (Acts 15:20; Romans 1:29; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13,18; 7:2; 10:8; 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7) are considered immoral. Now for the oral and anal(?) sex question, the Bible does not give us a "list" of approved physical activities that a couple can do before they are married.*No where does it say 'Thou shalt not blow', or anything of that sort. It all comes down to your knowledge of God, and His will. If sex before marrige is not allowed by God, it's obvious that any act of foreplay is out of the question. The problem is that no foreplay can result in pregnancy (unless you're doing it wrong). Oral and anal can result in transfering of STDs and AIDS. Just know that it can be a risk. Make the decision to go all the way, or part of the way, when you are by yourself thinking about right and wrong. Try to avoid making the decision while you are with the object of your desires. It's not impossible to abstain. If I can do it, you can do it. If you want.