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Old 10-28-2004, 08:13 AM   #17 (permalink)
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first, i would like to thank you for your patronizing "translation" and "correction" of my post. sets about the right tone for this non-conversation. well done, a near classical mirroring of form and content.

the answer to the question of whether the u.s. is or is not a democracy is obvious and in itself not interesting.

that your thinking on the matter required you route a self-evident claim through jefferson strikes me a strange--but whatever, i took the citation as a point of departure for talking about something else---if you reverse your priority of republic relative to democracy and use the latter to critique the former, you can isolate interesting features. using the notion of democracy to criticize the american system is useful, i find. you are obviously not interested in the question. so be it.

what i am saying is that your post itself indicates no conception of what athenian democracy might have been like--instead of actually thinking about the matter, you prefer to cite a website that cites jefferson as if that settled the matter. fact is that jefferson understood democracy through plato. it settles nothing.

additionally, i read the website you linked--the "tyranny of the majority" in the context of the website made it sound as if the writer associated the two. in any event, it links to the hallucination of "democratic despotism" than runs through the federalist papers, etc. plato again.

and it always strikes me as odd when someone who begins a thread understands that they get to police how the thread unfolds. quite a strange notion of free discussion you have. but no matter, if you want to limit things to your initial "point" then its self-evidence requires no conversation. and maybe you do not want any. so talk to yourself. no problem.
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