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Old 10-27-2004, 09:08 PM   #40 (permalink)
quicksteal
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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
Any Christian would feel like God wanted them to be the leader of the free world?


Erm... I don't think so. Also, I don't believe any Christian feels that God has a plan for them. Perhaps if you are an Anabaptist or Calvinist. But free will and a conspicious absense of predetermination are fundamental tenets to most Christian churches.

So, no. You can criticize him for that.


Mr Mephisto
How many Christians do you talk to? I have so many friends that would tell you that God has a plan for them. Free will and predetermination are a completely separate issue--I believe you have a choice whether or not you follow God's plan, and surely no one follows it exactly. We're not puppets on a string.

And I don't believe that God wants me to be the President. Bush believes that God does want him to be President, and I respect that. This is not a reason to vote for him(or against him)--John Kerry as a Christian should feel the same way.

In response to pan6467, I agree that Rev. Moon (is he a reverend?) is a major quack. Maybe by visionary Bush meant delusionary...
Also, I didn't say that Kerry isn't religious, I said that he doesn't show his religion the way that Bush does. I completely agree with your understaniding of the separation between church and state, and I too think a Constitutional ban on gay marriage is dumb (it would never pass, so I'm really not concerned about it).
I really do believe that Bush is a Christian, and I can tell from the way that he talks about his religion, and the way that he lights up when he talks about it. But again, that's not the reason to vote for him(or against him).
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