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Old 10-27-2004, 06:53 PM   #39 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by quicksteal
Actually, Jesus had disciples so that they could spread their religion to everyone else. I hate to get religious on y'all, but you're asking for it. Bush believes he is a servant of God, and he wants to follow the plan that God has for him. Bush saying that God wants him to be President is completely logical if you assume that he is doing what God wants him to do. I know that he tries...that he prays and thinks about the decisions that he must make on a daily basis.
If Kerry truly is a follower of God, then he believes that he is doing what God wants him to...but he's most definitely not going to say that because it's unpopular to the non-religious.
I have a question for you Quick, (I maybe wrong but I get the impression you are religious?), after reading what I have said about Bush's praise on Rev. Moon and knowing what Rev. Moon stands for and believes, how can you say that Bush is truly religious? I'm not tryin to flame I'm honestly trying to understand because it seems like such hypocrasy to me.

Bush called the man Rev. Moon, (who has said he is the Messiah and runs the mother of all cults, has given leaders of N. KOrea MILLIONS of dollars for their nuke programs, has sold them his warfare capable subs (liked to know how Moon got them to begin with)) a great visionary and American, simply because Rev. Moon owns the Wash. Post and prints what Bush wants to hear.

How can you vote a man as President that praises someone that says he is the Messiah and he's going to finish Jesus' work because Jesus screwed up (I linked all this in another post), yet claim the other candidate isn't religious because he doesn't push his religion onto others?

I'm sorry after I researched the Moon, GOP, Bush connections there was not a chance I would vote for him no matter what. Because I just think Bush says he is Christian to use that base. I know of no Christian that would ever support or say "great visionary and American" in praise of a man that claims to be the Messiah, or holds coronations in Congress for himself declaring himself religious leader of the world. Tio me that is too much the book of revelations (and I'm not a big believer in the book but research it. This doesn't come from "out there conspiritorial sources" it comes from MAJOR NEWS WIRES, Rev. Moon and the WT itself.

(I linked to all these on another post, if anyone wants me to link again I shall.)

As for my views on topic:

I respect a man and his religion and believe it is great to be religious, as long as if you hold a public office your views are not pushed upon me. (EXAMPLE: I don't think a judge having the 10 commandments is wrong, I think a judge that I think a judge quoting scripture during the case or in his opinions, however is wrong. I believe a president or congressman holding prayer sessions before meetings is great, I think a president or congressman using their religion to make laws (i.e. abortion, gay marriage, etc.) they do is wrong. I believe if a community votes religious and passes laws based on their beliefs we should respect that. Noone is forced to live in that area, it is not a federal case, it should never be. I don't believe religious people have the right to impose bans across a whole state or the country because then you are talking total diversity and dictating their views to others.
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