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pan6467 · 10-26-2004, 01:19 PM

The problem with third parties is they do not have a message. It isn't the press won't cover them. I'm sorry the libertarians just don't have much of a platform that would work in our system, they are too right to attract disgruntled Dems. and considered to whatever to be GOP.

Perot got coverage in '92. John Anderson got coverage in '80. Nader got coverage in '00. They had messages but when it came down to it they lacked true essence and charisma to get the win (and I voted for Nader in '00 and I supported Perot until he got too goofy).

The press is there. To say it isn't is just trying to make excuses. You want a true third party to work in this country, it'd be extremely simple. Find a platform that attracts both left and right (centrist), find charismatic people that can carry the word, make some phone calls and either rent space or petition to use parks, get a press agent or 2, then work your way across the country.

Before getting into a city run out flyers, do interviews with the city's papers and it's radio/tv stations, have a strong website that explains the candidate's background, the party's beliefs and even have a weekly Q&A forum with the candidate, send in people that will enthuse crowds to come and see the candidates.

When they get into town kiss the babies, don't have big dollar fundraisers have small bake sales or whatever. Mingle with the people for a full day or even a week in some places, listen to them talk to them and show them that their concerns are your parties concerns and that your platform will not change with the polls.

Trust me you want coverage, you want people to take notice that would do it. Yes, whoever wants to start this would have to start next Wednesday, and would have to probably campaign EVERYDAY for 2 straight years all over the country (first 2 are to get the message out and start a ground swell but can be done p/t), BUT is it not worth it? Financially, you'll have throw fundraisers for the party and the candidate.

All I'm saying is a person can win (IMO) without spending millions upon millions campaigning. It just takes hard work, ingenuity, passion beyond belief, money but as the message gets out the donations will grow, drive a vision people can believe in, a group of hard core believers, charisma, hitting every city possible and the firm belief that you WILL NOT LOSE (second you doubt you can win you lose.)

You show me a candidate that will do that, and short of serious scandals, I'll show you the next President of the US.

Hell, you show me someone with that passion and belief and if I believe in his platform I'll campaign shoulder to shoulder with that person for the next 4 years.

BTW, many of you will say that isn't feasible and come up with every excuse possible why that won't work...... and to that I say that reason and ONLY that reason is why there is no viable 3rd party. It's not the press, the government, the whatever, it's the attitude and belief that it will fail. That shows lack of passion.

If you have the message, the drive and the passion, people will flock to you.

(Edited to take out a quote, this didn't need it)

10-26-2004, 01:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	The problem with third parties is they do not have a message. It isn't the press won't cover them. I'm sorry the libertarians just don't have much of a platform that would work in our system, they are too right to attract disgruntled Dems. and considered to whatever to be GOP. Perot got coverage in '92. John Anderson got coverage in '80. Nader got coverage in '00. They had messages but when it came down to it they lacked true essence and charisma to get the win (and I voted for Nader in '00 and I supported Perot until he got too goofy). The press is there. To say it isn't is just trying to make excuses. You want a true third party to work in this country, it'd be extremely simple. Find a platform that attracts both left and right (centrist), find charismatic people that can carry the word, make some phone calls and either rent space or petition to use parks, get a press agent or 2, then work your way across the country. Before getting into a city run out flyers, do interviews with the city's papers and it's radio/tv stations, have a strong website that explains the candidate's background, the party's beliefs and even have a weekly Q&A forum with the candidate, send in people that will enthuse crowds to come and see the candidates. When they get into town kiss the babies, don't have big dollar fundraisers have small bake sales or whatever. Mingle with the people for a full day or even a week in some places, listen to them talk to them and show them that their concerns are your parties concerns and that your platform will not change with the polls. Trust me you want coverage, you want people to take notice that would do it. Yes, whoever wants to start this would have to start next Wednesday, and would have to probably campaign EVERYDAY for 2 straight years all over the country (first 2 are to get the message out and start a ground swell but can be done p/t), BUT is it not worth it? Financially, you'll have throw fundraisers for the party and the candidate. All I'm saying is a person can win (IMO) without spending millions upon millions campaigning. It just takes hard work, ingenuity, passion beyond belief, money but as the message gets out the donations will grow, drive a vision people can believe in, a group of hard core believers, charisma, hitting every city possible and the firm belief that you WILL NOT LOSE (second you doubt you can win you lose.) You show me a candidate that will do that, and short of serious scandals, I'll show you the next President of the US. Hell, you show me someone with that passion and belief and if I believe in his platform I'll campaign shoulder to shoulder with that person for the next 4 years. BTW, many of you will say that isn't feasible and come up with every excuse possible why that won't work...... and to that I say that reason and ONLY that reason is why there is no viable 3rd party. It's not the press, the government, the whatever, it's the attitude and belief that it will fail. That shows lack of passion. If you have the message, the drive and the passion, people will flock to you. (Edited to take out a quote, this didn't need it) __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 10-26-2004 at 01:53 PM..