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That'd be a good argument if you had previously specified which God you didn't believe in. In actuallity you only used the word God in general, as it means a 'being worshiped by monotheists'. You always simply referred to Him as God.
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I actually did refer to the Abrahamic religions earlier.
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Philosophy isn't always about logic. Sometimes it is about how you feel. As for being closed minded, how do you think you were being open minded when you said "So you require proof of the xian god but not that of another? This just shows how much of xian life and faith is based on indoctrination." Yes it would take seeing another God for me for my faith in God to be disturbed. AS I STATED ABOVE: "I have physical proof of God. I am alive today against all rules of science. I beleive that other forces were at work, as NO doctor could even begin to account for my recovery." For me God is no leap of faith as there is scientific evidence of unknown forces in my healing. Okay? No stretch of the imagination.
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First, philosophy is not "how you feel." Philosophy refers to the study of knowledge. Knowledge being (as accepted by the philosophy profession)
justified belief.
The comments that I made were to specific individuals. These individuals did not have any arguments to back up their position. I even said that I would accept a weak or even partial argument. If all you're doing is stating your conclusion, it is not philosophy, it not being part of a dicussion forum. Its spam.
I am sure that you believe your faith to be well founded and I'm not going to try and change your mind about it. In fact I never did try to change your mind about it. Looking back, I had meant to put your thoughts on Shiva and what not with some other thoughts of mine, I guess I got a little ahead of myself.
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There is a clear and obvious difference between seeing bombs hitting people you'll never know on the news and your home town being decimated by foreign bombs and you losing a lot of your friends and your security. This is what I was referring to. I know I would probably become very depressed if this were to take place. In my depressions, and in my process of acceptance, I would have to question why I wasn't prepared for this. I would be questioning very simple and fundamental knowlege of the world around me. One such fundamental belief I might question is my faith in God. I can't say that I would lose my faith in that situation, but it's possible. Who are you to argue with that?
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I would argue that, as many pro-lifers do, a human life is still a human life. Reguardless of who they are, they are still people and worthy of our comapassion. Why would the suffering of people close to you affect you that much more than all the people dieing in Iraq right now... or the Sudan... or any one of those places?
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The way I presented that choice was not condecending. I simply said that you have a choice in life to believe if it makes you happier, or not to believe if God would be a burden to you. The God Loves you comment was meant for a group of people you clearly do not belong to. Therefore, you have no right to be offended.
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Like I said, I misinterpreted it wrong. I already apologised so I see no reason for you do draw the point out further.
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One rthing you have to emember about this is that these are NOT arguments. This particular thread is intended for sharing of opinions, not debate. Some philosophical threads are intended to be debated, this just isn't one of them. I would havge thought that was obvious, but it aparently wasn't. Just to repeat, this thread is not here so you can argue down other peoples opinions, it is here so that we can share what we think.
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Like I said, all I ask for is a reason, any reason. Its not sharing opinions when your answer is, "I will never doubt my opinion of god. Ever. Nothing could ever change that." That's not even the topic of the thread. The topic was, what could
change your opinion of god?
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While I do not require your respect, I do ask that you refrain from attacking people. Nothing on this page was 'general crap with nothing to back it up'. This is the last time I will ask you to refrain from attacking people. This thread is not here for you to try and rationalize every little thing that is said. This particular thread is here simply for sharing something that can be very personal.
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You can threaten me all you want, I apologised already. If you can't look within your good, Christian, heart and find forgiveness, that's between you and your god. It has nothing to do with me.
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My faith is based more on personal experience and knowledge than Biblical stories and stuff. Several times in my life I prayed for things that were very important to me, and against all odds, the things that I prayed for happened.
Plus, the world is just so amazing. I mean, it's been here for a while, but stuff like DNA and biochemistry is just really awe-inspiring. Eukaryotes have not been around for a very long time, and yet the diversity (including different numbers of chromosomes with very different functions), the specificity of organs... everything seems like something is guiding how things work on this world.
Is there a chance that I'm wrong? Yes. But in order for me to stop believing, something massive would have to happen, like Greek or Norse gods running about. I mean, what would you expect would make me stop believing?
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There you go, there's a quallity answer, deserving of being posted in a philosophy thread.
Also, its not like I don't have an open mind. I'm studying religion (and philosophy) in university for jebus' sake. Again, like I said, I'm not here trying to convert anyone from their religion. I think religion is a great thing. It can inspire great deeds and great heroicism. I only ask (in a forum that practically preaches that your posts should be meaningful and of decent quality) that if your going to say something at least give a reason for what you say.
Finally, if I overly offended anyone, I apologise. I did not mean to cause such outrage from anyone. I forget sometimes that religion is the absolute truth for some people. For me, it is simply another piece in a the big, bin of metaphysics.
