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Old 10-25-2004, 07:57 AM   #25 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Mr Zen
This doesn't make any sense to me. Do you think that god sat up one day and decided that America would be for his chosen people and that they would be granted the glory that is democracy? What did all the other people do to piss him off so bad that they get to be forcebly repressed by their governments (and there are totalitarian governments that have a xian population in the majority). What was it that made god not want people to have democracy before the 1800s? And apperently the Japanese did something totally messed up to bring god's rath upon them, I mean two nukes?!?! Shit, someone pissed him off big time I guess.
You drew the most odd and random conclusion from what I said. CLEARY America is not God's chosen people. WHAT I WAS SAYING is that something that removed me from my lifes normalicy and that killed milions of people, a lot of which I know, would make me question God. I would not be questioning why God was mad at us, that's ludacris. I did not write this to be debated on God. There are plenty of threads out there for that.

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So you require proof of the xian god but not that of another? This just shows how much of xian life and faith is based on indoctrination.
For someone who is clearly not based in faith, you sure do have a holyer-then-thou attitude. I have physical proof of God. I am alive today against all rules of science. I beleive that other forces were at work, as NO doctor could even begin to account for my recovery. Just because you can spew out anti judio-christian buzz words like 'indoctrination', you think you have a firm grasp on reality, and I don't. Let me put it this way. Lets say you were born in a country that has no connections to western beliefs, politics, science, or religion. You are taught science that is different, not necessarily wrong, but different. You understand the world around you better beacuse of the way you were taoguth about the world around you. Then a westerner comes to you and ridicules you for your beleifs. How is that fair? How is you ridiculing me going to solve anything? Does it make you feel better? Who put you in charge of logic? Give me a break.

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Originally Posted by Mr Zen
See above without the other gods part.



God can keep his grubby hands off me, thank you very much.
Clearly you were a part of group a.

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Originally Posted by Willravel
If the answer is worse, let it go. I'm sure that God does not want to be a burden to you. Continue a life where you try to be good and moral.
Just because you are in group a, doesn't mean there aren't people glad to be in group b. I never said ANYONE had to believe in God, the least of whome you. If you don't believe God exists, how does he have grubby hands?> It was a dissrespectful remark. Let's remember that the rules of TFP require people to act over 18.
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