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This is obviously something you're saying to yourself to justify your practices.
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This is why these debates are pointless. See, you aren't even paying attention... otherwise you would've known that in my post (#14), I plainly said it doesn't justify it. It doesn't. Downloading stuff without paying for it has no justification - I'm just saying it doesn't really matter, because the numbers have yet to show otherwise.
I've also stated that the whole idea fails if EVERYONE suddenly just went out and did that, but that will never happen, so the hypothetical "what if EVERYONE did it.." doesn't apply. Guess what? Everyone KNOWS that you can go on P2P and download games, movies, music. Everyone has the option of doing so. Do they? A lot do, but most don't.
If everyone did, you would see sales drop steeply. Hasn't happened yet. Income lost to piracy is a very small fraction of total income. Look at music.. it's much easier to download songs than it is to get a 500 meg - 4 gig ISO. It's done on such a much larger scale than movies and music and the music industry has YET to see a sudden SHARP DROP in income.
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Its thinking like that that is the plague in people that pirate. Look at the bigger picture, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO PLAY IF PEOPLE KEEP DOWNLOADING GAMES.
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I remember hearing this 10 years ago when I got a copy of Doom from a friend at school.. people said almost the exact same thing you're saying now back then. Remember all those people who said usenet would be the downfall of the gaming industry because of the warez groups, and that in 10 years the gaming industry would be SOL?
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When you rent something, you pay for the rights to view/play it for the period that it is in your posession, NOT to do whatever you want with it for that time thereafter.
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Mkay, but we're talking about how it hurts the industry, remember? Yes, it's a violation of copyright law, but who gets hurt in this case? If blockbuster already purchased the game, then the developer already got the money. If you paid to rent the game and you don't rent it again (most people don't rent the same game twice), who is that hurting?
The key here is to think outside of the box for one second and welcome the possibility that not every case has a negative effect.
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So its ok to steal if you don't have the money to buy something? Please clarify.
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I already established that it's not stealing. If you want another example of hte differences between the two, think about what you just said... if you don't have the money to buy a game and you download it instead, did you actually steal $x from that company? The answer is no, because you didn't have the money to begin with, so.. how are you going to give them money you don't have? At the same time, it's not like "ooh, so if you don't have money you can just walk into a store and steal a candy bar?" No, it's not the same. If you still can't figure out why at this point, then there's nothing more I care to explain. I'm not saying it's justified, I'm saying it's not the same.
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Now, back to playing on my completely LEGIT xbox playing my BOUGHT games...
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Have fun? Good for you?
I mean, really now... back to what I originally said: it's pointless to debate this. The gaming industry isn't going anywhere. I've been having these debates on piracy for years. I work in the software industry and it's no surprise that when you venture into the PC software world, you'll have to (at some point) deal with piracy. The numbers have always been a VERY small fraction of overall income to MOST companies and will most likely remain the same for years to come. I remember this was a big concern during the dawn of broadband. Numbers really haven't changed much.
I'll stop here though, because this thread has gotten wayyy off topic...