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Originally Posted by Kalibah
I'll work my way backwards
I have no obligation to work against the war since I have no control against the war. Again I remind you war is not intrinisicly evil. The Church's views are VERY clear on this, War isn't "good" but at the same time it should only be used as a very last option. Since both Canidates were "for" the war, it is clearly a non-sequitor in a political debate- but since this is about john kerry... how we brought George W. Bush and him being for the war into it... then we can get into it
"War cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring the common good, except as the very last option."
from the Pope
Now we might as well drop this issue right here and now because there is NO way you could EVER prove war is a last option if you wanted to get nitpicky. Couldnt we have let hitler have France in WWII? He said he wouldn't trouble Britain if they left him alone ( essentially). Its a grey area, and its impossible for ANYONE other than God to decide if a war was the very last option. But as I stated both Canidates were " for" the war, the issue is how they went about it.
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Has the pope endorsed this war or condemned it? No matter what statements there are dealing with just war on a CAtholic scale, this Iraq adventure doesn't meet that criteria.
http://www.cathnews.com/news/303/124.php
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When war, like the one now in Iraq, threatens the fate of humanity, it is even more urgent for us to proclaim, with a firm and decisive voice, that only peace is the way of building a more just and caring society," he said.
The Pope, in a speech to employees of Catholic television station Telepace, added: "Violence and weapons can never resolve the problems of man."
The Pope led the Vatican in a diplomatic campaign to avert war, putting the Holy See on a collision course with Washington and its backers in the Iraq campaign.
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Can you doubt the words of the Pontiff? Why is this pronunciation selectively ignored? Given your earlier statements, you have a moral obligation to adhere to this. If being "powerless" in the face of an issue is a valid excuse, then I guess I can justify a whole lot of things that the church doesn't agree with.
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Again as I said above, he takes both sides. He cant vote AGAINST the defence of marriage act, and act like he isn't for giving gays rights to marry.
Its clearly another issue where if you arent FOR it - in the eyes of the Catholic church, your against it. If you are pro-choice- dont pretend your aligned with the Church... your not.
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Kerry has NEVER come out for gay marriage. Any statement to the contrary is just plain wrong.
As was implied above, if you don't oppose the war, don't pretend to be aligned with the church....you're not.