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Originally Posted by cthulu23
i suspect that John Paul II might see it differently. Regardless of whether or not you are a ranking official in the administration, supporting a war that the Vatican opposes goes aginst CAtholic thinking. I hate to burst your religious bubble, but that's the truth. Anyone could use the same equivocation to support any Catholic opposed idea..."I let my woman have an abortion, but I'm not on the supreme court so it's okay."
I guess since you're not a national politician that your own anti-catholic views don't count. Maybe I should pick up my lapsed catholic heritage....I never knew they had become so casual!
Speaking of hearing what you want to hear, Kerry has never, never endorsed a "constitutional right to marry" for gays. I don't agree with that, but it's the truth.
I never doubted your strict adherence to the abortion doctrine, I've just pointed out your divergence from Catholicism in other areas. What about your obligation in conscience to work against the war?
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I'll work my way backwards
I have no obligation to work against the war since I have no control against the war. Again I remind you war is not intrinisicly evil. The Church's views are VERY clear on this, War isn't "good" but at the same time it should only be used as a very last option. Since both Canidates were "for" the war, it is clearly a non-sequitor in a political debate- but since this is about john kerry... how we brought George W. Bush and him being for the war into it... then we can get into it
"War cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring the common good, except as the very last option."
from the Pope
Now we might as well drop this issue right here and now because there is NO way you could EVER prove war is a last option if you wanted to get nitpicky. Couldnt we have let hitler have France in WWII? He said he wouldn't trouble Britain if they left him alone ( essentially). Its a grey area, and its impossible for ANYONE other than God to decide if a war was the very last option. But as I stated both Canidates were " for" the war, the issue is how they went about it.
Again as I said above, he takes both sides. He cant vote AGAINST the defence of marriage act, and act like he isn't for giving gays rights to marry.
Its clearly another issue where if you arent FOR it - in the eyes of the Catholic church, your against it. If you are pro-choice- dont pretend your aligned with the Church... your not.