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Old 10-18-2004, 08:52 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by daswig
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Saddam did pay money to the families of SUCESSFUL suicide bombers, $25,000 per bombing. Randi Rhodes even admits this is true. http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/...T&f=86&t=27648

Then we get to the WMD issue. You say none were found. Well, how 'bout this one? Source: http://www.foia.cia.gov/duelfer/Iraqs_WMD_Vol3.pdf (page 34 of 248) Or, how 'bout these? ibid, further down the page, left hand column. They found FIFTY THREE WMDs (see figure 5, page 30, same link). Saddam was required to get rid of ALL WMDs, and he didn't. True, they weren't new production, but they still were WMDs.
Stop......daswig.....yer killin' me !!!! How does it make you feel, knowing now,
that people like me, and the French, and the Germans knew that Bush's
"facts" about quantities of Saddam's WMD's were just so much warmongering
bushshit in his January 28, 2003 State of the Union address? Or that Iraq's
December 2002 "full disclosure" of its WMD's and programs to produce them
is now regarded as the most accurate record existing on the subjects. Not as
bad as a U.S. family who now lives with a dead or maimed U.S. troop who paid the price for Bush's carefully orchestrated mass deception!
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Bush juggles war message with domestic issues, tax cuts
By By Ron Fournier
Published: Wednesday, January 29, 2003
"Instead of rushing down the path to war with Iraq, the American people deserve a full debate," Kennedy said.

Top GOP congressional leaders sounded eager to get to work on Bush's legislative agenda. "We're about to get this ball rolling," said House Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois. "We're ready to go," agreed Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee.

Bush offered no new evidence to support his charges against Iraq, but said Secretary of State Colin Powell will go to the U.N. Security Council next Wednesday to present the U.S. case.

"We will consult, but let there be no misunderstanding: If Saddam Hussein does not fully disarm for the safety of our people, and for the peace of the world, we will lead a coalition to disarm him," the president said. Key allies, including France and Germany, oppose military action in Iraq and want Bush to give U.N. weapons inspectors more time.

Hoping to sway reluctant nations, Bush presented a laundry list of Saddam's alleged offenses, some of them newly revealed to the public. He said intelligence sources have reported that thousands of Iraqi personnel are at work hiding documents and materials from the U.N. weapons inspectors.

Specifically, Bush said Saddam has not accounted for up to 25,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons of sarin, mustard gas and VX nerve agent and more than 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical weapons.

"If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning," Bush said.
<a href="http://www.thebatt.com/news/2003/01/29/FrontPage/Saddam.deceiving.Not.Disarming-515373.shtml">http://www.thebatt.com/news/2003/01/29/FrontPage/Saddam.deceiving.Not.Disarming-515373.shtml</a>
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Posted on Mon, Oct. 04, 2004

CIA review finds no evidence Saddam had ties to Islamic terrorists

By Warren P. Strobel, Jonathan S. Landay and John Walcott

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - A new CIA assessment undercuts the White House's claim that Saddam Hussein maintained ties to al-Qaida, saying there's no conclusive evidence that the regime harbored Osama bin Laden associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The CIA review, which U.S. officials said Monday was requested some months ago by Vice President Dick Cheney, is the latest assessment that calls into question one of President Bush's key justifications for last year's U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The new assessment follows the independent Sept. 11 commission's finding that there was no "collaborative relationship" between the former Iraqi regime and bin Laden's terrorist network. .....<a href="http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9836140.htm">http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9836140.htm</a>
Issues of war and diplomacy just ain't all black and white. Why has the
Bush administration ignored the Saudi payments to Palestinian suicide bomber
families?
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With Friends Like These: Saudis on the West
By Rozalina Grubina

Documents captured by Israel during its April 2002 incursion into the West Bank have proven beyond all reasonable doubt that Saudi Arabia is actively supporting Palestinian terrorism. According to Israeli intelligence officials, who publicly released the captured documents in early May, the Saudi government gave $135 million over the past 16 months to help the families of suicide bombers and to fund other aspects of the Palestinian Intifada.1 Some of these funds made their way through the Hamas-allied Tulkarm Charity Committee, a group that provides welfare and other social services to Palestinians and is one of the chief means by which Hamas secures popular support in Judea, Samaria, and the Gaza Strip. In addition, the Saudi Committee for Support of the Intifada Al Quds—headed by the Saudi interior minister Prince Nayif bin Abd al-Aziz and funded by the royal family—recently raised $109.56 million for the Palestinians in a telethon, a large part of which was spent on $5000 payments to the families of suicide bombers
<a href="http://hcs.harvard.edu/~hireview/content.php?type=article&issue=fall02/&name=source">http://hcs.harvard.edu/~hireview.......</a>
<a href="www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,51252,00.html">FOXNews.com - US & World - Documents: Saudis Paid Bombers</a>

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