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Originally posted by james t kirk
Yep, Ontario and Alberta are net payers, no doubt about that.
And Toronto is a net payer in Ontario, yet, the city is almost broke. Figure that one out.
This city pays more in taxes in pure quantity terms than any other city in the country. The provincial Gov't takes, and in return downloads welfare, and highways, and other former provincial plans onto the city.
We can't even get a dime out of either the province or the feds to build a subway which in my books is a pretty noble project.
We pay boat loads of money in ontario and get a few rail cars back.
But what are you going to do?
Cut the other 8 provinces loose and say tough titties for you?
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No. Cut them off and say, start living within your means...especially Quebec.
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I have worked in Quebec quite allot. Probably about half my year is spent working in Quebec. I have really gotten to know the Quebecers and the province quite well.
The quebec boys i work with bust their humps too. Though suprisingly, they think that they are net a net payer provice also. The myth of the laid back quebecer is a myth believe me. I used to think the quebecers were a whiny lot too. But then I started working there and my opinion changed (again). There a pretty good lot. I have never had any "English dog" grief.
I can't speak for the bearaucracy, but, the people i have met are all suprisingly friendly.
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Their ignorance on that subject is part of the problem, although I don't doubt Quebecers themsevles are nice.
Government tends to be the problem there.
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I can't tolerate any separatist BS from anyone be they from Quebec, or Alberta, or BC. It's all about political lust. Lucien Bochard et al knew that they could never be prime minister of a Canada because they don't have what it takes. So, you want to be king and pope, you have to separate. It's not what's good for quebec, or alberta, it's all about power and wanting more.
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No. That's what you want to dismiss it as because you can just brush it off there. We are being taxed without representation, without consideration, and at a very unfair rate.
We don't get a fair return on our taxes, nor do we even get as much money as other provinces (regardless of how much was paid in). We also get ignored...when peace river or the red river flooded, where was the federal aid money? It came along quick when Chretien's area flooded...