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Originally Posted by pan6467
So you can take the years off that chart that taxes were lowered and prove the economy strengthened, and yet when taxes increased by the years on those charts the economy went downhill?
State and local taxes may be comparatively low now, but they will have to increase or programs you enjoy will be gone as will state colleges and local public schools.
You didn't say Bush wouldn't raise taxes but you keep bragging about the tax cut that when he does raise your taxes you're going to be paying dearly for.
And YES, when a people lose jobs their tax money is lost (not just NATIONALLY, BUT LOCALLY, AND STATELY). If those people find a job but make less, then they are paying less in taxes and the base goes down again nationally, locally and stately. When factories get outsourced, businesses that counted on those workers to buy things lose business and end up closing down. So Nationally, locally and stately you lost the income from the factory, the workers and the businesses and workers they employed.
Yes, nationally, we may not notice the mass exodus at first, but IT WILL catch up to us and those who are rich will be paying a Hell of a lot more or emigrating the fuck out of here because the middle class won't exist and the poor won't be able to afford the taxes.
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As I pointed out in another thread with you, there is more money available for people going to school than ever before and a lot is sitting there unused/unclaimed. Your arguments about the cost of education hold no water.
I have not bragged about the Bush tax cuts in the least, I have simply pointed out that the inaccurate portrayals of it as a "tax cut for the wealthy" are a whole lot of bullshit. Do I think Bush will raise taxes? No. I do not because I do not think he will make the same mistake as his father. Do I think it's possible? Absolutely.
Do I think Kerry will raise taxes? If he makes good on even a quarter of his promises, he has to. That leaves either not fulfilling the promises or raising taxes. Either option is a negative to me. If he doesn't fulfill the outrageous promises he is making then it proves he was just saying anything at all to get elected. You may be ok with that but I'm not.
If I had to pick a sure bet when it comes to the two candidates and taxes, I would put all my money on Kerry raising them. The next to sure bet is Bush not raising them IMO.
Again, the number of jobs going overseas is ridiculously small compared with the rest of the economy. Feel free to site some numbers to prove me wrong. I have shown numbers in many other posts about this and countless other things, and I would love for someone else to start showing the numbers that prove their points. As some may have noticed, I decided to stop putting so much work into my posts since it only ends up as "well here's what article x has to say about it" when the article doesn't even touch on the details being discussed. There are certain industries losing jobs to overseas. There are thousands of others who are not. Kerry can run screaming around the country about how terrible it is but he will NEVER stop them and will NEVER stem the flow for more than a year or two. The argument about this situation is pointless. If your jobs are moving overseas, get another fucking job. Get training or develop skills that are necessary for you to earn a living. It's not up to the President to take care of you.
If you truly believe "the middle class will not exist" then there is little I can do to change your mind. That assertion is beyond ridiculous and completely buys into the shit being shoveled by the liberals who are so anti-rich/anti-corporate that they wouldn't see reality if that's all that was on tv.