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I appreciate this thread for the solid arguments...
but all the people who blindly trust their government and defend it to the death without trying to research some info (that doesnt come out of CNN's American Morning or FOXNews) should try to open their eyes... The govt. can't be trusted all the way..you can trust your friends and family, but can you really trust what American Media feeds you..
another issue is the bias from the news sources here...on CNN all the democratic reporters get the stupid non political cases, like the Laci Peterson story, while the republican reporters give the stories about 9/11, Iraq, all that.
So. Open your eyes. Read and respect what willravel and others are trying to say. Just because they don't give 100% trust in the US Govt and they have their own opinion doesnt mean their wrong. Because to believe that "America is always right because their army can kick anyone's ass" is just plain "I have a bigger dick than you" type of reasoning.
So let's all grow up. The TFP is about being mature. So research your shit a bit and back up your stuff.
OK, I'm done bitching.
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