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Originally Posted by adysav
I hate to criticise you, again, but this is a strange statement.
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Sure, whatever, let's go off on another tangent, shall we?
Your definition is kind of wormy too, since it lacks any kind of subjectivity, [being based on how people define normal,] <- subjectivity [as opposed to what normal actually is.] <- objectivity
Anyway, weren't you one of the people slamming my natural predisposition statement on the grounds that you can't discuss human activity outside a social context? Deviant in terms of the whims of the majority is the only valid definition.
Anyone who attempts to compare human behaviour to some official predefined objective standard is only really comparing it to their own beliefs.[/quote]
Even if i was one of the people "slamming your natural predisposition statement", it isn't even relevant to the idea of deviance. It would seem to me, by your assertion that nobody is limited by society's expectations of them, that it would be inconsistent of you to acknowledge the existence of deviance at all.
But no, your right, there is no objective reality. There are no statistics. We cannot use these nonexistent statistics to determine what kind of behavior the majority engages in. All we have are the intangible opinions of the majority.
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Originally Posted by adysav
This is what happens when you try to apply the term deviant to one persons beliefs.
What you mean is that we are all unique because we are individuals. Deviancy is taken as relative to society as a whole.
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Deviancy can be taken as relative to society as a whole, but society as a whole is irrational and shortsighted. If you want to denounce a behavior on the sole basis that society frowns upon it than you haven't put a lot of thought into what you're saying. If you have that much faith in the wisdom of groupthink than just stop arguing with me right now please because we will never see eye to eye.
If you look at deviance in terms of what people actually do, instead of what they think everyone else is and should be doing, you will see that deviance can easily be defined as the behavior the majority engages in rather than the behavior the majority accepts.