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salemsaberhagen · 10-17-2004, 08:30 AM

A very interesting thread. I am from Scotland and I don't know if any of you know much about this country but the girls in it are probably not as nice as girls in other countries. There does seem to be an endless production line of bleached blondes with over-tanned faces and too much make up that drink waaaay to much, eat too much and smoke too much! A lot of which I do NOT find attractive. But we do have our share of hotties.

The biggest problem with girls in Scotland is that even if they are 4's, 5's or 6's they really believe themselves to be 9+, it is very irritating.

Anyhoo, I will be putting some of what I have read here into action. I think the advice here can be adapted for everyone whether you are looking for dates/sex/relationships etc. A date can turn into a relationship, if that's what you want.

The bottom line is to bring those qualities to the surface that work, the ones that some of you keep hidden. The witty lines, the ego etc. Be cheeky/cocky but don't be an @sshole, be confident but don't be ARROGANT, be a nice guy but don't be a doormat. Be funny just don't be a ****in' CLOWN! Most of all, be genuine. Women pick up on this, they read body language better than us. If you try to be fake, you will come across as fake, whether you realise it or not. Be natural, be confident and adapt plan9's advice to your own ends and it will work.

Being a nice guy/decent guy/polite guy/smart is not WRONG. Never think that. I used to make excuses like, girls don't like smart guys because they prefer to hang with guys that make them look better, girls these days prefer shorter guys because it makes them feel more empowered, girls aren't interested in me because *enter cliche here*. The thing is use what you have to your advantage, just don't broadcast it. If you are chatting to a girl, being C/F making her laugh and then leave at the height of conversation this WILL leave them feeling that they have to know ore about you. Mystery is good. Would people give a damn about the Bermuda triangle if they knew what the cause of all the weird stuff was? Of course not, it is a mystery and mystery intrigues people. Getting back to what I was saying though. If you lay the ground work and a woman finds you interesting and mysterious and like you and then she finds out that on top of all this you are NICE, GENUINE, POLITE, GENTLEMANLY etc, this will only make her like you more, providing she finds out a bit at a time. If however after spending time with her and you have no good qualities, you will get dumped.

So going back to what I said about dates/sex/relationships and how it all relates....
If you want sex only, the c/f thing will work becase she will find you interesting long enough for you to bang her and she doesn't have long enogh to find out you were only after one thing in the first place (not something I advocate by the way).

If you want dates only then the c/f thing will also work because girls love guys who make them laugh, are intersting, have confidence in themselves. However if you have no really good qualities even this tacic will get old and if she wants to take tings further and you don't then she will either dump you or you will leave and move on to the next date. Which leads me to...

Relationships. After the initial c/f work, the advice about not phoning too often, not too many compliments etc, and the two of you have got to know yourselves better, she can then find ut your finer qualities (if you have any) and then you can open up a bit more (notice I said a BIT more) and a relationship can develop because by that time you have shown yourself yo be an intersting, multi-faceted individula who is WORTH THE EFFORT.

So don't worry if you think all the advice in this thread is just about looking for a quick fling, it is all ADAPTABLE. Just don't use it to get laid and use girls because that is WRONG. Fine having casual sex if that is what both parties want, but I don't like guys who use the 'patter' (good Scottish word), to hump and dump some poor gir who doesn't have the brains to see through a guy's crap.

Women do really want protecion, they may not admit it but they do. Whether this is emotional, financial or physical. A woma nmay be with a guy because he is rich (financial), Musclebound (physical) or just a cool guy/nice guy/guy who keeps her entertained (emotional). At the end of the day we all want someone who makes us feel good, and in some cases (moreso in the case of women) safe.

So that was my $0.02.

10-17-2004, 08:30 AM	#441 (permalink)
salemsaberhagen Upright	A very interesting thread. I am from Scotland and I don't know if any of you know much about this country but the girls in it are probably not as nice as girls in other countries. There does seem to be an endless production line of bleached blondes with over-tanned faces and too much make up that drink waaaay to much, eat too much and smoke too much! A lot of which I do NOT find attractive. But we do have our share of hotties. The biggest problem with girls in Scotland is that even if they are 4's, 5's or 6's they really believe themselves to be 9+, it is very irritating. Anyhoo, I will be putting some of what I have read here into action. I think the advice here can be adapted for everyone whether you are looking for dates/sex/relationships etc. A date can turn into a relationship, if that's what you want. The bottom line is to bring those qualities to the surface that work, the ones that some of you keep hidden. The witty lines, the ego etc. Be cheeky/cocky but don't be an @sshole, be confident but don't be ARROGANT, be a nice guy but don't be a doormat. Be funny just don't be a ***in' CLOWN! Most of all, be genuine. Women pick up on this, they read body language better than us. If you try to be fake, you will come across as fake, whether you realise it or not. Be natural, be confident and adapt plan9's advice to your own ends and it will work. Being a nice guy/decent guy/polite guy/smart is not WRONG. Never think that. I used to make excuses like, girls don't like smart guys because they prefer to hang with guys that make them look better, girls these days prefer shorter guys because it makes them feel more empowered, girls aren't interested in me because enter cliche here*. The thing is use what you have to your advantage, just don't broadcast it. If you are chatting to a girl, being C/F making her laugh and then leave at the height of conversation this WILL leave them feeling that they have to know ore about you. Mystery is good. Would people give a damn about the Bermuda triangle if they knew what the cause of all the weird stuff was? Of course not, it is a mystery and mystery intrigues people. Getting back to what I was saying though. If you lay the ground work and a woman finds you interesting and mysterious and like you and then she finds out that on top of all this you are NICE, GENUINE, POLITE, GENTLEMANLY etc, this will only make her like you more, providing she finds out a bit at a time. If however after spending time with her and you have no good qualities, you will get dumped. So going back to what I said about dates/sex/relationships and how it all relates.... If you want sex only, the c/f thing will work becase she will find you interesting long enough for you to bang her and she doesn't have long enogh to find out you were only after one thing in the first place (not something I advocate by the way). If you want dates only then the c/f thing will also work because girls love guys who make them laugh, are intersting, have confidence in themselves. However if you have no really good qualities even this tacic will get old and if she wants to take tings further and you don't then she will either dump you or you will leave and move on to the next date. Which leads me to... Relationships. After the initial c/f work, the advice about not phoning too often, not too many compliments etc, and the two of you have got to know yourselves better, she can then find ut your finer qualities (if you have any) and then you can open up a bit more (notice I said a BIT more) and a relationship can develop because by that time you have shown yourself yo be an intersting, multi-faceted individula who is WORTH THE EFFORT. So don't worry if you think all the advice in this thread is just about looking for a quick fling, it is all ADAPTABLE. Just don't use it to get laid and use girls because that is WRONG. Fine having casual sex if that is what both parties want, but I don't like guys who use the 'patter' (good Scottish word), to hump and dump some poor gir who doesn't have the brains to see through a guy's crap. Women do really want protecion, they may not admit it but they do. Whether this is emotional, financial or physical. A woma nmay be with a guy because he is rich (financial), Musclebound (physical) or just a cool guy/nice guy/guy who keeps her entertained (emotional). At the end of the day we all want someone who makes us feel good, and in some cases (moreso in the case of women) safe. So that was my $0.02.