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Old 10-16-2004, 07:29 AM   #57 (permalink)
Lebell
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Originally Posted by Locobot
How do you forsee any country having a "propensity to like us"? The true lesson of Bushwar for the world is that Americans are willing to elect and support a leader who will make bat-shit crazy military moves including unprovoked invasions. The other lesson for dictators and fundamentalist governments is that they had better develop nuclear weapons because that is apparently the only deterant effective against the right-wing that holds power in the U.S. (Iran, Pakistan, North Korea). How do you explain our government's handling of Saudia Arabia with kid gloves when it has been proven as an ongoing source of terrorists? The Bush docterine is untenable and arbitrary at best.
"Bat-shit crazy military moves including unprovoked invasions" certainly is a colorful turn-of-phrase, but it is partisan and not universal opinion.

And many countries do like us, which you should at least admit, including many former Eastern block countries, many countries in our own hemisphere, and many western European countries.

As to Saudi Arabia, I explain our policy towards them in two ways.

Yes, we handle them with kid gloves when IMO, we should not, but we do it because the government there is amenable to change as well as to working with us against al quaeda (even though it is not as fast as I would like).

This was not true with Afghanistan or Iraq.

And it was Clinton and the presidents before him that "allowed" North Korea to get nuclear weapons. To lay that at Bush's feet is dishonest.
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