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onewolf · 10-14-2004, 05:28 PM

One fatal flaw in this theory involves comparisons between this crash and other crashes. This crash is most certainly different than most other crashes for a very big reason: Most airline crashes occur at low speeds in a situation in which the pilot is trying damn hard to land the plane or in the very least, minimize impact. The pilots on this one of course were doing the opposite - they wanted to maximize impact.

Thus, one would certainly expect the crash scene of an injured plane with a capable pilot to look much different than the crash scene of a plane in perfect operating condition moving at maximum velocity aimed at a single point of impact.

The "crashed" plane would leave lots of destroyed ground (the makeshift runway) and lots of plane parts where the plane comes to a rest/crash.

So to look at some normal crash sites, like the video does, and compare them, doesn't make much sense. A good crash site to compare this with would be the ValueJet crash in the Florida everglades. That one nose dived and hit the ground at similar speed to this flight 77. It also disintegrated to some extent, although much of the plane was found since swamps are much more forgiving than 16' reinforced concrete/steel walls. Absolutely no bodies or body parts were recovered from the ValueJet however.

This also is key in terms of the sound people reported. Everyone quoted as saying it sounded like a missle and not like a plane - well those people, just like you and I, have never actually heard an airplane going 500+ mph within a few hundred yards of them. It would most certainly sound like a missle. And no, it would not sound anything like a plane taking off or landing at closer to 200 mph.

Also, different subject, somebody mentioned some crap about no actualy list of passengers. Wasn't neo-con Barbara Olson on board?

Anyway, keep these thoughts in mind as this lively discussion continues!! It's a fun theory - I like it. I don't buy it, but I like it.

10-14-2004, 05:28 PM	#148 (permalink)
onewolf Tilted	One fatal flaw in this theory involves comparisons between this crash and other crashes. This crash is most certainly different than most other crashes for a very big reason: Most airline crashes occur at low speeds in a situation in which the pilot is trying damn hard to land the plane or in the very least, minimize impact. The pilots on this one of course were doing the opposite - they wanted to maximize impact. Thus, one would certainly expect the crash scene of an injured plane with a capable pilot to look much different than the crash scene of a plane in perfect operating condition moving at maximum velocity aimed at a single point of impact. The "crashed" plane would leave lots of destroyed ground (the makeshift runway) and lots of plane parts where the plane comes to a rest/crash. So to look at some normal crash sites, like the video does, and compare them, doesn't make much sense. A good crash site to compare this with would be the ValueJet crash in the Florida everglades. That one nose dived and hit the ground at similar speed to this flight 77. It also disintegrated to some extent, although much of the plane was found since swamps are much more forgiving than 16' reinforced concrete/steel walls. Absolutely no bodies or body parts were recovered from the ValueJet however. This also is key in terms of the sound people reported. Everyone quoted as saying it sounded like a missle and not like a plane - well those people, just like you and I, have never actually heard an airplane going 500+ mph within a few hundred yards of them. It would most certainly sound like a missle. And no, it would not sound anything like a plane taking off or landing at closer to 200 mph. Also, different subject, somebody mentioned some crap about no actualy list of passengers. Wasn't neo-con Barbara Olson on board? Anyway, keep these thoughts in mind as this lively discussion continues!! It's a fun theory - I like it. I don't buy it, but I like it.