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Originally Posted by KMA-628
Wow, just wow.
What is this person's next step? To collect the means to act on his intent. Then people die. This person is a danger regardless of what stage of the game he is in. If you can catch one of these guys in the planning stage rather then then after the act itself, you can save countless lives.
BTW, intent is a crime, I doubt I have to list different crimes where this is applicable.
Intent is the years of planning before 9/11.
Intent is the thought in somebody's mind that maybe we should fill a raft with explosives and float it next to a naval warship.
Intent is some dumb kid, mad at the gov't, thinking about how he can blow up a federal building.
Intent is just the first stage in a deadly and destructive act.
The funny thing is how this argument is used.
Take Columbine. There was a lot of intent by two kids that you wouldn't think would have the means to carry out such an act. Guess what? They took that intent, formulated a plan and carried it out.
Now, who is in trouble?
The police for not acting on the known intent.
This is a double-standard argument. You (collective) criticize for not "protecting you" when there are clues to the intent. Then you criticize for acting progressively and going after people that have the intent.
Yes, intent is dangerous. People die when you think otherwise and the case history is on my side for this argument.
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hey, nothing like take a snippet of my post to suit your purpose! (maybe you should work for the RNC!)my full quote...
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some one who thinks "hmm... i want to blow up this building" but doesn't know how or have the means is no danger. and unless you want to start prosecuting people for thought crimes, there's nothing that should be done to him. once he starts going out and buying supplies to make explosives and drawing up plans, then you can stop him.
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intent is not the years planning 9/11. that's called "planning." intent is thought to do something. have you ever heard some one say "i intend to paint the kitchen this summer." but when do they have the paint? have they starting "planning" when and how and what color they're going to paint it? no, that'd be planning to paint it.
think about how many times someone has thought "god, i want to kill that bastard!" about someone that's really pissed them off. how many actually do it? should they be arrested for that thought? no.
if somebody intends to do something, watch them. when they start planning it and youknow they're gonna do it, then stop them (hopefully) before they go through with it. but you can't arrest someone for their thoughts, they may just decide 20 minutes later that it's not something they want to do.
once he starts to "collect the means to act on his intent" then get 'em. but not before, he hasn't done anything wrong.