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Originally Posted by Beatlefan58
So a fetus is dead? Those are the two choices---alive or dead. There is no inbetween.
And if dead, then it becomes alive somehow, as I assume you are? That's a miracle. Rock and steel can't do that. We maybe shouldn't be interferring with a miracle in process; the One that is causing that miracle may not appreciate it.
By that logic, a newborn human baby isn't alive either--it has to be fed and given liquid. It has not the means to do so on its own.
Edit-- I went back and read your first note and you equate the ability to express a desire for food with the ability to acquire it. It's not the same thing, but even under your logic, a fetus has the ability to acquire food--it gets it from its mother without having to express a need for it.
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There is a third state of being. It's called nothing. My keyboard is doing a good job at being neither alive nor dead (it's made of plastic).
If my keyboard suddenly became alive, would that become a miracle? Of course it'd be a miracle. But only to this definition of the word: "an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment." Lets try to keep things on topic: god has no place in a logical (philisophical) discussion.
The fetus does not grow onto the mother. The mother grows onto the fetus. The mother's own body creates the mechanisms for which the fetus aquires resources without any manipulation from the fetus itself. Pregnancy itself was developed as an evolutionary advantage to make children. That is, pregnancy evolved and developed to create fetuses- fetuses did not (and do not) create pregnancy. Basically, we're dealting with "chicken or the egg" argument in a different form. The chicken (or it's ancestor, or 'transition species' if you want to mesh words- though everything is a transition species) came first and created the egg. The egg didn't coax the chicken into creating it, nor was the chicken manipulated into facilitating the egg's creation by anything at the egg's hand.
There is nothing done by the fetus to make the mother create it. The mother does it all on her own in an attempt to make copies of herself. Once the copy is made, well, then the manipulation begins That's when they fend for themselves- and it all starts with crying.