Willravel

What I am trying to communicate is that the colapse according to the official report put foruth by the investigating team and the media is much less likely and more complicated than the facts present.

My answer might not be right, but it is closer to fact than what they reported.

Well the WTC was designed to take a crash from a slightly smaller plane. The planes were not going 500 miles per hour. Please read the reports. The planes did not strike the center supports. There is no physical evidence to explain why the towers both essentially fell straight down on a windy day.

The pools of molten steel were found and tested by the investigation team. They were composed of the exact same alloy of steel as were in the supports. They were found after the colapse. I never said they were seen durring the colapse.

You said warping, which means bending. I am suggesting that the steel reinforced structure would not all burn at exactly the same rate over the entire floor. That is the only way each floor would have collapsed completly at the exact same time, as was seen in videos from the massacre.

If you watch the collapse of the North Tower, it is aparent that there are "puff lines" of smoke, above the aircraft impact entry hole, from the top floor, down to the impact point. "Puff lines" ONLY occur, if the floor BELOW the "puff line" is solid, allowing the necessary compression, which pushes the smoke outward. No solid floor = NO "PUFF." The floor has a "puff line", then colapses on the floor below it, then it repeats.

Any significant fire would have been at least one floor below the last "puff line". That indicates the collapse of the cooler upper floors; (core column collapse) not the heavily fire damaged floors - immediately above the fire.

The nearly simultaneous occurrence of the "puff lines" - and the light smoke color - indicate that the alleged fire/heat would need to be uniform to the top-most floor. That is, independent fires burning on multiple floors; producing simultaneous and identical temperature profiles. IMPOSSIBLE!

Watch the video or look at pictures. The fire is not fanned, in other words there are no flames escaping, until after the "puff lines". Timeline: the antenna collapses by 10-20 feet, the puff lines occour, then the fire get's fanned. The collapse of the antenna proves that the events started from the roof, not the burned floor or immediatally above the impact. All 47 columns could NOT have given way at once, at least not from fire damage. Looking at any visuals from the collapse, everything started from the top. The roof collapsed first.

The North Tower antenna weighed 353 TONS! Thus, the 47 core columns would need to be strong enough to not only support that weight, but be able to endure the effect of wind (100 Knots - plus) swaying the antenna, in addition to some value for earthquake shock. Any such 'safety factor' would have otherwise served to also guard against thermal damage (loss of vertical support) from a fire.

On the engineering end of the antenna mounting, its weight would have rested upon some type of "plate," thereby distributing its weight over a broad area. The antenna weight would not be limited to something on the order of a single 'pole.' In some fashion, that 'supporting plate' area would have been distributed over a high percentage of the 47 columns. That design would protect against both gravity (vertical forces) and wind (lateral forces). Thus, the early - and near vertical - antenna collapse singly attests to nearly the ENTIRE 47-column core collapsing FIRST!

Additionally, later images attest to the antenna landing almost vertically; it didn't topple. (The top of the antenna was standing so vertically that the fire fighters used it for a flag pole.) That image attests to the LACK of any significant resistance until reaching the ground. Such does NOT attest to a "progressive" one-floor-at-a-time collapse, versus a near simultaneous collapse of ALL floors - the core!

The outer shell was fitted with "outrigger" segments, extending for approximately the top ten floors. Thus, the outer shell was designed to carry part of the antenna weight. Hence, the added rigidity of the upper floor walls attests to a radical and rapid collapse of the core - not the outer walls.

In the "official" account, the floor-plate attachments are supposed to have let go, (on cue - given the images) causing the accelerating cement "pancake" mass. According to that theory, only the first floor above the fire initially collapsed, causing the floors below to progressively collapse; one-floor-at-a-time. That requires a sequence of delays - however brief.

According to that presentation, the core columns would be left standing - however briefly - as the floor panels released from their attachment points. In theory, as the floor panels let go from their mountings, the load would be relieved from the core columns - leaving them to stand/balance, momentarily. We can be certain - just from the timed duration of the collapse - that such was NOT the factual collapse progression. In the case of BOTH buildings, everything let go at once. Thus, with the core columns obviously collapsing first, there had to have been SOMETHING to breach the vertical integrity of the 47 steel columns - EARLY in the collapse, not later.

Given the undeniable sequence, the floors fell as a consequence of the core column collapse, not the reverse.

Remember that THREE buildings collapsed in this fashion. Beyond the description of the collapse, it should be noted that ANY mechanical dynamics which approach this description betray an extensive and remarkable engineering and operational feat; make no mistake about it. Such an effort couldn't possibly have come from the "Loyalist Islamic Caves of Afghanistan!"

That is why I have ruled it improbabl that Ossama and his group of thugs could have been responsible for all of this.

ut yourself in the shoes of a terrorist hijacker. Your last mission on Earth is to induce "terror" into the heartland of America - the "evil Satan" of the planet. So, what better way than to attack the symbol of America's wealth and power - The New York Stock Exchange! The blow would induce a radical and global economic depression and take years to recover from! But NO! Images are more important - prestige is the key! (Huh?) So, that leaves the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center. (Image? Well, okay.)

With that decision, the mass casualties are the key, along with the toppling of the towers. As the towers fall over, more thousands will be killed on the streets below, and still more within any additional "financial" buildings that can be struck down by the falling mass! Of course; that's it! (So you hit them at the top??)

ONLY - if you want minimum physical damage and loss of life! That's called the "Least-Risk" point.

Just give that a moment of thought. Three amateur Cessna 172 pilots are supposed to have crashed three complex jetliners into three buildings, flying at over 300 Knots, at the "Least-Risk" point - on the first attempt!

Oh, BTW, no one has gotten near the 7-WTC (or building 7 of the WTC) mysstery. FEMA, in their report on the attack, basically said that they have no explaination for it's collapse. None. No fire, no planes, almost no debreis.