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Old 10-11-2004, 05:28 AM   #23 (permalink)
summerkc
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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
I don't recall anywhere in my post taking a position on the candidates. If you chose to see the world in such black and white, us or them terms, then there is no use discussing this further.
Take a look at your signature, and at your name for that matter, both trivialize Christianity.

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If you think for a second that we are altruistic and give of ourselves only because we are so generous, then you are mistaken. Every dollar we spend in foreign aid is done so with strings attached. A favor given with a favor expected is no favor at all. We don't do these things out of the goodness of our hearts, regardless of what political ads may say. We do it only if it serves our best interests.
Well of course we do it in our self interest, even though what we get back is not even close to what we gave. But what is the problem with doing things in the self interest of America if it help others in the process. Lets say that the war in Iraq was ONLY done for oil. Along the way to securing that oil we freed a oppressed nation and removed a dictator that had already killed millions of his own people and tried to take over another country. I don't see the problem.

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I appreciate your views, but you are missing the point of what I am saying. Simplifying extremely complex issues through the use of jingoistic language does not serve us in the long run.
I don't see it as a complex issue, and it is not. They want to kill us, so we instead of sitting on our asses and letting it happen are going to go after and kill or capture every last one of them we can find. People say this is not a war against Islam, but it is. When not one Muslim leader speaks out against the beheadings or the deaths of children we have to assume that Islam as a whole supports these actions and the militant Islamics. The Koran repeatedly calls for the death non believers, and they are just following their murdurous religion.
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