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Ustwo · 10-09-2004, 06:53 PM

There are a lot of ways to look at this about freedom.

Halx correct me if I’m wrong but I think you work in the porn industry (at least that is what I’ve gathered in various threads). Now you hear ‘conservatives’ talk about how evil porn is yadda yadda, but with a Republican house, senate, and Whitehouse has anything changed for you? Are you unable to work? Have you been arrested? Most Republicans don’t really care about this anyways, its no more a conservative ideal then Peta is a liberal one.

Or lets take it from another angle.

I have sexy maybe 3 hours a week these days. Some weeks more, some weeks less, but over all its not a great hunk of time. I work on the other hand 8-5, 5 days a week. I’m working for me, and I am working for my family. If the government takes out more of my check I am effectively not working for what is important to me in those hours it takes to earn that money. Its another form of slave labor that you owe the state no less then the Egyptians owed time to the pharos. You talk about freedom but what takes more from you, the fact that you can’t smoke pot legally or the fact that the government takes close to 50% of what you make when you work in state, income, sales, gas, property, license fees, and other taxes? It’s a lot easier to cheat with sex and drugs then it is to cheat the IRS.

Liberals think you are not responsible enough to own a gun.
Conservatives think you are not responsible enough to smoke a joint.

Liberals think the state is more important then you are.
Conservatives think the state owes you nothing.

We are really talking philosophies not issues here, and it really has nothing to do with the upcoming elections.

If John Kerry wins I’ll place a wager that when he leaves office, marijuana will still be illegal, prostitution will still be illegal, gay marriage will still be a state issue, guns will still be legal, and euthanasia will still be illegal. The reason is they are majority issues. A majority of the people don’t’ want these things to be legal or in guns case illegal, and as such he will do nothing to change this.

Most conservatives are not members of the religious right despite attempts to portray us as such. Issues like abortion and gay marriage are media blips attempting to create a situation of ‘Us vrs Them’, without getting to the heart of the arguments.

10-09-2004, 06:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	There are a lot of ways to look at this about freedom. Halx correct me if I’m wrong but I think you work in the porn industry (at least that is what I’ve gathered in various threads). Now you hear ‘conservatives’ talk about how evil porn is yadda yadda, but with a Republican house, senate, and Whitehouse has anything changed for you? Are you unable to work? Have you been arrested? Most Republicans don’t really care about this anyways, its no more a conservative ideal then Peta is a liberal one. Or lets take it from another angle. I have sexy maybe 3 hours a week these days. Some weeks more, some weeks less, but over all its not a great hunk of time. I work on the other hand 8-5, 5 days a week. I’m working for me, and I am working for my family. If the government takes out more of my check I am effectively not working for what is important to me in those hours it takes to earn that money. Its another form of slave labor that you owe the state no less then the Egyptians owed time to the pharos. You talk about freedom but what takes more from you, the fact that you can’t smoke pot legally or the fact that the government takes close to 50% of what you make when you work in state, income, sales, gas, property, license fees, and other taxes? It’s a lot easier to cheat with sex and drugs then it is to cheat the IRS. Liberals think you are not responsible enough to own a gun. Conservatives think you are not responsible enough to smoke a joint. Liberals think the state is more important then you are. Conservatives think the state owes you nothing. We are really talking philosophies not issues here, and it really has nothing to do with the upcoming elections. If John Kerry wins I’ll place a wager that when he leaves office, marijuana will still be illegal, prostitution will still be illegal, gay marriage will still be a state issue, guns will still be legal, and euthanasia will still be illegal. The reason is they are majority issues. A majority of the people don’t’ want these things to be legal or in guns case illegal, and as such he will do nothing to change this. Most conservatives are not members of the religious right despite attempts to portray us as such. Issues like abortion and gay marriage are media blips attempting to create a situation of ‘Us vrs Them’, without getting to the heart of the arguments. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.