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Originally Posted by aceventura3
The American culture is not being forced on the world, people of the world like it and want it. People like the ability to have freedom of choice and to be able to go as far as their talents will take them. Islamic extremist don't want people in Islamic countries to freely choose their lots in life. They blame the fact that their own people want certain freedoms on the US. That is why they have declared a holy war against this country.
When a guy like Saddam wants to and has invaded neighboring countries, murders hundreds of thousands of his own people, uses chemical weapons, wants to develop nuclear weapons and would use them, I guess the thinking of the United Nations and most Democrats in this country is to do nothing.  If you leave him alone, he won't bother the US? |
Who's talking about your culture? No-one's talking about watching American Pie movies or wearing Levis. The US has a history of supporting and enforcing regime change throughout the world regardless of the wishes of the people it affects. Did anyone ask the Iraqis if they want democracy? No. Yet you talk as though you speak for the entire population of the earth, when you don't and the entire population of the earth doesn't want you to. Why do you think Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the Arab world than Bush? Because of McDonalds???
At the moment Saudi Arabia is preparing for its first local elections. In conversations with the locals, hardly any of them are going to vote because they're content with the way things are.
Islamic extremists want the US out of their lands. They want to be able to live their lives the way they want without having the US telling them what to do and how they should be doing it.
No-one is saying that Saddam was a nice person. But the blatant hypocrisy on show is that there are many more tyrants in the world who operate without reproach from the US or even with their blessing. Some of these tyrants are far more of a threat to the US than Saddam could ever be. Yet nothing is done about them. Why doesn't Bush invade Sudan or Rwanda, where state sponsored genocide is the norm? Why doesn't he invade Zimbabwe, where "democracy" has evolved into starvation of the populace and imprisonment or death to government opposition, not to mention blatantly racist agendas? Why don't they invade North Korea? Or China for that matter?
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I guess that must be the problem with guys like me and Bush. We think the Iraqi people want to be free to make what they believe to be the best choices for their lives and their families. I think they want to live in peace, and to be respected and treated with dignity. However, I think what Islamic extremist want is far different than what most Iraqi people want.
Are we wrong? If we are wrong how do they see the world, what do they want?
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After you invade a country and reduce it to rubble is the wrong time to be asking these questions.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I re-read your response and could not let the above statement go. The US government does not sanction torture. If war criminals or political prisoners have been tortured, those responsible will be held accountable. I know our system is not perfect but we are diligent we try to be a just and open society. And, people have the right/obligation to speak-out and challenge our government. What we do, we do in the "light of day".
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Then explain Camp X-Ray.