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Old 10-04-2004, 06:29 PM   #202 (permalink)
wilbjammin
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Originally Posted by adysav
Every day decisions are made on parenting by experts in the field of human psychology. Their code of conduct decrees that they be unbiased and work solely in the interests of the children. I contend that these people are a good choice for mentally profiling people to determine their fitness for parenting. The only thing that is questionable is your willingness to accept that these people are qualified to do their jobs because their results do not tally with your view of how the world should be.
You're changing the subject. Let me retrace the arc of the argument.

1) You claimed that women are naturally better parents than men.

2) I, and others, responded by saying that there is no evidence to support that claim.

3) You claimed that women are obviously better parents because of who gets custody in divorce claims.

4) I, and others, responded by saying that you made a big leap which had nothing to do with nature and had more to do with society.

5) You didn't respond to this differentiation between nature and society, and went on to post about how court-appointed psychologists are unbiased and know good parenting better than the rest of society.

So, where I'm at now is where I've been at since early on in this argument. You can claim that in our <i>society</i> women are raised to focus more on child-rearing than males. You can claim that in our <i>society</i> the hierarchical division between men and women has created a cultural phenomenon that allows more responsibility for women to raise children. You can claim that in our <i>society</i> men are much more often violent towards women and the power differences noted in the male-over-female system has created a vacuum for males in the child-rearing process.

These are social claims that can be backed up with statistics and things such as court settlements. Your global claim has not been backed up by scientific evidence about the nature of humanity at all.

Now, to relate all of this to homosexual parents as foster parents and bearers of surrogate children - Simply, there is no data set to support that it would be unwise or unsafe for homosexual parents to have children. The short-comings of the foster care system don't apply to homosexuals as a subset of all people who have foster children. That is like saying that because gun violence in the United States is a higher percentage than in other countries, that all gun owners in America are violent. Again, you need more support to back up your claims.

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There has still been no reply to the point that foster children are 5 times more likely to die having suffered abuse at the hands of their parents than children who are parented by their biological family.
My reply is that this is an erroneous and irrelevant statistic to the subject at hand.
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