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pan6467 · 10-01-2004, 05:38 PM

Until a third party is strong and can pull in truly respectable numbers, neither party will truly listen to them.

The closest we've had in my lifetime was Perot and had there been a good leader to take control of the party and get the message out, we may well have a true third party now, there were enough votes to affect an election. Strong leadership and a tweaking would have kept that party relevant and growing especially now.

A vote for a third party is not a throw away, but realistically the 2 parties and politicians don't really listen. They look at third party votes as either radical or protest votes and until there is enough to matter they will keep looking at it that way.

It's like asking if Nader really did any damage to Gore in '00. No, he didn't. Like here in Ohio, Nader had like 3.4% of the vote and Bush won by 5% so even if all the Nader votes had gone to Gore Bush still won Ohio, I am pretty sure that was the case in all the close states gore lost, Nader didn't make as much of a difference as the press led people to believe.

Perot, on the other hand did.

Just find a third party, get it truly organized, find a platform that people can associate with and spread the message by getting STRONG leadership. Otherwise a third party will never happen.

10-01-2004, 05:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Until a third party is strong and can pull in truly respectable numbers, neither party will truly listen to them. The closest we've had in my lifetime was Perot and had there been a good leader to take control of the party and get the message out, we may well have a true third party now, there were enough votes to affect an election. Strong leadership and a tweaking would have kept that party relevant and growing especially now. A vote for a third party is not a throw away, but realistically the 2 parties and politicians don't really listen. They look at third party votes as either radical or protest votes and until there is enough to matter they will keep looking at it that way. It's like asking if Nader really did any damage to Gore in '00. No, he didn't. Like here in Ohio, Nader had like 3.4% of the vote and Bush won by 5% so even if all the Nader votes had gone to Gore Bush still won Ohio, I am pretty sure that was the case in all the close states gore lost, Nader didn't make as much of a difference as the press led people to believe. Perot, on the other hand did. Just find a third party, get it truly organized, find a platform that people can associate with and spread the message by getting STRONG leadership. Otherwise a third party will never happen. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 10-01-2004 at 05:40 PM..